So this is a must have

[DammitBoy]

 

[silicosys4]

^^ makes the gun inaccessible if you are actually lying in bed, unless you have longer arms than I do.
The wall mounted things are allright if your kids are properly trained, for a discrete place to have a firearm at the ready.
Anybody seriously ransacking your house is going to notice the dead space in those things, especially that mirror.

 

[Ky Larry]

At first glance,this seems like a good idea. On second thought, not so much. How are you supposed to keep up with the magnetic key? I've spent hours looking for my keys after a visit by my grandkids.

All security systems are a compromise.If a pro wants something you have, you can't stop them. A good fireproof safe, a home security system, and good neighbors seem like a better bet.

 

[we are not amused]

All security systems are a compromise.If a pro wants something you have, you can't stop them. A good fireproof safe, a home security system, and good neighbors seem like a better bet.

You are correct about all security systems being a compromise.

Too much security, and you can't access the item when you need it.

These systems are a compromise between just stuffing the gun down in the seat cushions or hiding it in a drawer, which many people do, and a full fledged safe which means the gun is not easily reached.

No security system is perfect, the much vaunted, and with good reason, Liberty fire proof safes, are not invulnerable or theft proof.

Given a bit of time and some tools, (handheld metal cutoff saw would do) a Liberty Safe could be cut open. It just takes time, a lot of it.

I think the products shown are innovative and useful, and would be much better than leaving the guns in unsecured drawers and such, while still allowing rapid and convenient access.

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

I'm here to tell you that in the industry, the much vaunted - Liberty fire proof safes, are the much taunted. They are a triumph of marketing over substance in my, and others, professional opinion. There is not a single Liberty "safe" product that even comes close to meeting the U.L. one hour fire protection test criteria. It's a sad fact that if you want or need good thermal protection you absolutely must go beyond the RSC market.

I don't care if you don't care to believe me, it's your valuables that will suffer, not mine. This is an instance where I really do know what I'm talking about.

900F

 

[NoVA Shooter]

While thieves come in all varieties, any decent thief, in addition to dumping all your clothing drawers and kitchen, tossing your mattress, and dumping your book-case - he will knock everything off your walls looking for hidden safes or hidey-holes like these. Thieves also target vanity mirrors for prescription drugs.

For instance, for about $5 in materials, you could cut out a rectangle between the drywall studs, build a small pine box, with small compartments, and insert it in the wall wherever you'd like. Then hang a picture over it.

Sorry, but didn't you just say that a decent thief will knock everything off the walls? By your own admission, the 'hide something in the wall behind a picture' tactic will fail. At least the shelf/mirror solution has a reasonable chance of keeping your guns concealed (I doubt a thief will waste time trying to rip a properly mounted shelf/mirror off the wall if their primary goal is simply to empty it of its contents).

The key is also problematic. What if you have misplaced the key?

As is the case with a $100,000 safe rated to withstand being submersed in molten lava and 2 years of drilling with a tungsten carbide diamond tipped drill. No matter how good a system is, it cannot overcome human failure. You can have the best safe in the world and forget to lock it...

These are like your car door lock or your front door lock. It keeps honest people honest, but is totally inadequate for security. Hence, it's wise to have additional protection (car alarm, front door brace mechanism, etc.).

I've got a corner shelf unit covered in pictures that was $100 - it has a well concealed drawer perfect for a handgun.

Again, I'm confused. Are you saying the shelf in the OP's link is totally inadequate for security but also saying you have something similar that is good?

Like others have said, good security has many layers; one of which is the idea that if a thief doesn't know it's there, they can't know to steal it. I agree this isn't the best way to protect valuables, but if you have to balance accessibility, cost, aesthetics, and theft prevention, this can be pretty good solution.

 

[leadcounsel]

$500 or so for a hollowed out shelf mirror?

A fool and his money are soon parted...

Meanwhile:

(Free)

And this

$10

Does the same thing. Want a little fire protection? Add this for $20:



This:


Plus this or similar:



Finish up the corners with some trim, and a little paint. You can even install a wooden door with a lock.

Ad some artwork/painting or other concealment would serve the same purpose and be nearly free.

If you want to get "fancy" there's this $50-$100 option for a plastic molded insert with hooks and shelves.

 

[NoVA Shooter]

Meanwhile:

<picture of drawer>

And this

<picture of lock>

$10

Does the same thing. Want a little fire protection? Add this for $20:


<picture of lockbox>

Plus this or similar:

<picture of shelves in wall>

Finish up the corners with some trim, and a little paint. You can even install a wooden door with a lock.

Ad some artwork/painting or other concealment would serve the same purpose and be nearly free.

If you want to get "fancy" there's this $50-$100 option for a plastic molded insert with hooks and shelves.

I agree it provides the same amount of hardened security, but it does not serve the same purpose. As soon as a "decent" thief sees any of those, it becomes a target of theft. The purpose of the hollowed out shelf is to deceive the thief into believing it is nothing more than what it appears to be. Any thief, decent or not, will open a drawer. Seeing a lock on it will only entice them more. The shelf idea has a chance to work because it is a non-traditional place for something to be kept. It can't be expected that a thief will spend time looking for every potential hidden compartment (maybe this granite counter top is hollow, let's smash it! No wait, these light bulbs have open space in them! Oo, let's spend some time to see if all the food in the fridge is real!). In the wall behind a picture, in drawers with locks, under tables, etc, are all common places that even you agree would be the first place any thief will look.

Is it worth $500? I don't know, but I'd give it a better chance to keep my items safe during a robbery than free desk drawer with a $10 lock.

$500 or so for a hollowed out shelf mirror?

A fool and his money are soon parted...

Pride goes before a fall...

 

[Potatohead]

Quick, get them to market!

It's a shame not everyone is as "gifted" as you. Imagine all the wondrous things we would have!


Bachelor alert!

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Back to the original topic...

The thing I find most interesting is their using the old magicians trick of an angled, darkened underside for shelves to make them look less thick than they really are.
http://tacticalwalls.com/shop/825-pls/

It's a neat idea, but certainly is nothing more than security through obscurity. For what it is, though, it looks well executed and certainly has that "spy" of hidden compartments.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

I think it's pretty cool. Why all the Debbie Downers?

 

[javjacob]

I like it! Would be perfect to store your home defense gun for someone who has young kids.