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So, what's the consensus on the Sub2000?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Chris Pinkleton, Oct 7, 2004.

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  1. Chris Pinkleton

    Chris Pinkleton Member

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    I'm thinking about one of these as a companion gun for my G17 -- I just ordered one of those G18 mags, and I think I need a carbine to put it in.

    I know the trigger pull is supposed to be heavy -- anyone have experience with the factory trigger job? How's the relibilty, durabilty, etc.?
     
  2. Daniel964

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    I'm looking at getting one also so I'm looking forward to the answers. Only I want the one that uses Beretta 92 mags so I can get some 30 rounders.
     
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    at around $300 it is a really good buy if you insist on getting a 9MM carbine...lot cheaper than a Storm and probably just as accurate....
     
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    [​IMG]

    Seems like the obvious choice to me.
     
  5. Daniel964

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    What is that Jonathan?

    Is that real or a photoshop job?
     
  6. Chris Pinkleton

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    So Jonathan, do you have any personal experience with the Mech-Tech?

    To me, unless the Mech offers better performance over the Kel-Tec, it makes more sense to spend less money, and have a whole new firearm as opposed to just an "upper" for my pistol.
     
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    I love my Sub. Bought it as a toy, found that it was reliable, easy to shoot, at least 'minute of paper plate' accurate at 100 yards, and the perfect size for indoor use. I went with the S&W mag version. 17 round mags cost me ten bucks each. Ammo is a hundred rounds for ten bucks at wally world.

    Shooting one is a lot like being a kid with a .22 again. Just a fun little plinker. I've come to trust mine enough that it's a bedroom gun now. Bought a second one for the truck after the first somehow became the wife's gun.
     
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    Thanks for that link WhiteKnight.

    I've heard of those from a guy I met at the range this spring. He had one in .45 he let me shoot. It was quite heavy but fun to shoot.
     
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    Thanks for that link WhiteKnight.

    I've heard of those from a guy I met at the range this spring. He had one in .45 he let me shoot. It was quite heavy but fun to shoot.
     
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    Chris: Though I haven't had the opportunity to use one, I have examined a few in person. The fit and finish seemed well above average, and though I'm no expert, it seemed well thought out and designed.

    The way you mentioned finding a use for the G18 mag made me think you might be one of those people that loves modular or identical firearms. Either way, it's tough not to appreciate a carbine that's identical to your pistol. Obviously any cost or effort invested in trigger work, grip modifications, etc would be nice to carry over.
     
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    Thanks for the input. The company's website lists the 2 ranges I go to as dealers. I'll be sure to check them out if they have one.
     
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    Just ordered mine with a G19 magwell, should be here in a few days. Looking forward to seeing how it does with some G18 mags! Should be a fun gun, mine cost $279.99 at my dealer.
     
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    mine had some teething problems but its works fine now. i agree with TommyTrauma. ist a great, fun little plinker for ~$300 and mags and ammo are cheap and plentiful. its more accuarate than i expected and WAY more fun than i expected. its the (very) poor man's MP-5! plus i love being able to transport it to and from the range in a backpack. i always get looks at the range when i unfold it and start shooting. for the price, you can't go wrong. i'd recommend getting one.

    Bobby
     
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    I seem to remember reading a 6 page thread on that exact topic. If I remember correctly it got a little crazy. Anyways, they definately seem cool, if you think about it, why should a blowback 9mm or 40S&W carbine cost $1200 anyway. I like to think that they are closer to a sten gun than an Mp5 myself. :neener:
     
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    I like my Sub-2000. .40 S&W with Glock mags. Hits minute of clay pigeon at 25 yards offhand. Perfectly happy with $70/500 Wolf ammo and likes Speer Gold Dot, too. Folds to 16"x7" for convenient stowage in a brief case, should you be so inclined. Very stiff blowback spring. My kids can't cock it.

    [​IMG]

    It worked for me with the CCI Blazer ammo in the picture, but Kel-Tec warns against using aluminum-cased ammo, so I stick with Wolf for plinking.
     
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    Wow. Does anyone have any experience with that shoulder rig?
    Does it make the sub2000 concealable with a long winter coat?
    (Assuming reasonably large fellow.)

    I'd been thinking about getting a '2000 anyways. Something that would make it mostly concealable would be icing on the cake. :) A sort of unnecessary and potentially silly icing, but, hey, its all about amusing yourself. Right?
     
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    At $250 for the gun, and with $20 Glock 33-rounders, this gun is becoming more and more appealing. :)
     
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    WhiteKnight, got a source for those $20 33 rounders?
     
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    Natchezss
     
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    Wow, I had just put down their catalog because it only listed Clinton mags.
     
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    Hmm, and their website shows them OOS too, drat.
     
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    Actually it's the poor man's Uzi. :)
     
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    Sub2K = poor man's uzi?

    Well, i have never fired an Uzi, but I went to the range with a friend this afternoon and put about 100 rounds of 9 mm through his Sub2K. It was very appealing, fed flawlessly with Wolf ammo, bit of a heavy trigger, but quite accurate. recoil about non-existent. Quite light and easy to handle.

    I foresee me coughing up for one in .40 cal, with Glock mags.
     
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