Soaking Brass in Simple Green

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I soaked some dirty brass is a fairly weak solution of Simple Green and water for 6-7 hours last night. After rinsing and drying, the brass was dull looking. Some had a redish/pinkish look to it. I put it in the tumbler with some Frankford Arsenal brass polish and walnut media. It seems to be slowly polishing up okay, but I wonder if I should have let it to soak so long. Simple Green is a great cleaner and seems to be fairly harmless to most surfaces. What do you think? Is the brass probably alright?
 
Geezuz, cleaning brass isn't complicated. It doesn't have to shine. It just needs to have the crud from firing cleaned off.
"...a redish/pinkish look to it..." That means the copper is coming out. Stop doing that. Just tumble it in plain walnut shells for a couple of hours and forget the chemicals.
You've reduced the life of your cases, but not by much. But cut out the chemicals.
 
Dirty cases - Walnut, little bit of paint thinner
They shine like new before you load

Loaded rounds - Corncob, dab of kerosene
Shine like new for a long time.

You don't need anything else, i.e. nada, nothing, zilch. Simple as that, don't make it any harder than it is.
 
I reluctantly threw the cases I soaked in Simple Green overnight away. They looked great but seemed to size and flare too easily (too little tension). I was afraid they were weakened and unsafe. Brass is cheap. Pistols and fingers are not.
 
""...a redish/pinkish look to it..." That means the copper is coming out. "

No, the zinc is comming out and leaving the copper behind.
'Dezincification' is the technical name. It can be a long term problem with acidic well water in household plumbing equipment. Since copper is also toxic in larger doses, it can cause health problems in potable water.
 
bear8mm, not correct ! There are many types of corrosion and many types of brass. Dezincification is much more common in two phase brasses ,where there is a zinc rich and copper rich phase. The zinc rich phase is corroded away. Ammonia causes a different type of corrosion , stress corrosion cracking . Here stress, a corrosive agent [ammonia or other nitrogen compounds even urine !] moisture and oxygen combine to cause stress corrosion cracking. This was first seen in ammo by the Brits in India over 100 years ago .The ammonia came from thunderstorms ! so was found only in the rainy season. That's why they anneal case necks.
 
This is something that I was actually intending to do. I guess I will try something else, maybe just dish soap.
I like the idea of cleaning the dirt off my cases with soap and water prior to putting the cases in the tumbler. This saves a lot of wear and tear on the media. That way, I am using my tumbler to polish the cases rather than to clean the cases.

As a side note, for years I used a tumbling media put out by Lyman that contains some kind of polishing rouge. It would leave a reddish dust behind on the cases. It shined the heck out of my cases, but left this dust behind. Sometimes you couldn't really see it, but in handing the cases, in came off on your hands. As the media became old, more dust was produced. I started to worry that this dust might be abrasive to my dies and my guns. However, the icing on the cake occured when I read the book, "Handloading for Competition". It showed a rifle barrel that was cut in half lengthwise and you could see, with the naked eye, how this reddish rouge was actually impregnated into the steel of the barrel. Long story short, I started washing my cases in soap and water (using a brush to clean the case necks) after tumbling in this media. When I ran out of the media I bought straight corn cob media from then on. In that process I was doing the opposite of what I am doing now: I was using the tumbler to clean the cases and then I was cleaning them again with soap and water to get rid of the dust from tumbling.
 
mete, before I knew different, I used some ammonia to clean some 7x57 brass. It turned a splotchy pink. Someone told me it was from the zinc being leached out of the alloy. I didn't hang on to it long enough to see if the necks cracked.
 
I don't wash my brass at all, I just throw it in the tumbler and let it go, but the one thing I do different is that I use long grain Rice as the media and I think it works just as well if not better than corn cob or walnut shell and I can get a 25# bag for less then $5.00 :p
 
I have a product called Stainless Mate. I have done some very limited testing on it (just got it Wednesday). I'm going out of town Saturday, but if I get a chance Sunday I'm going to look in my coffee can filing system for some grungy range brass and give it a test. I'll post as soon as I can. Looks promising.
 
Yup Three man...You are definitely correct. That's why resteraunts put it in salt shackers...:D

If brass is soo cheap. Why are we trying soo hard to salvage as much as we can. Not to mention the cost of some of these cleaning agents. I can understand why we try to salvage "hard to get" brass. But why the common ones. Not trying to be a smart A$$ here, 'cause I'm guilty of the same "crime" so to speak...:D I guess it is all in the effort to improve the quality of life?:confused:
 
Never thought of that, thanks guys! That is why I am always recommending this site whenever I am in the chat rooms and telling all my friends about it cause you guys are the greatest:) !!

I guess that I will just use it once then trash it or sell it to a third world country since I use 40-50 pounds at a time and do between 3-5,000 rounds at once.

And I know you probably think that I am crazy doing 9mm but I am a disabled vet (Kosovo) and it gives me something to do during the day(read get away from the wife) also to answer your question Bushmaster, maybe it's because man likes to see the end product of his work, the satisfaction of knowing that the recoil, smoke, fire , noise and little hole came from something that he did with his own hands and labor?
 
MMMM...So that's why I try to salvage all the brass I can get my grubby hands on...O K...I except the fact that I'm hooked on reloading and there is no cure for it...:D
 
Washing

If you are gonna wash something, just use plain old Ivory soap liquid. It leaves no residue and has no additives. Want proof? Just use a small squirt in a pint spray bottle and fill with clean water. Spray on mirror. Wipe. Smile.... :)
 
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