I don't know what he did to get in trouble with the BATF, but it is sad that this design was lost in the process. I really doubt the name choice of SOCOM had anything to do with it. The cost of the lower was the only thing keeping it from really getting out there. That and the fact that I had to do alot of research before I even came across SOCOM MFG with the diamond seriers. I did my homework well when I built my AR, and as I stated before I don't think there is a better AR lower out there. How much a lower affects overall accuracy is trivial unless you really go low on the quality or have a loose fit to your upper. That being said I don't regreat the extra money I spent on this lower. I can put any upper on it, and know it can take the punishment.
SOCOM Mfg Diamond Series AR lowers
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I agree, the name choice probably had nothing to do with the BATF's oversight, any more than Joe's Bait and Grill. My comment in that regard was in marketing to the public consumers.
Most billet receivers are well done, as the programmer has to do it all to get a decent product. The process does allow more latitude in style, while providing an opportunity to add material strength in areas where it can be done.
Overall, the amount of work, time, and labor to put the product on the market was probably never recovered in the few lowers made. The profit opportunity was certainly lost, as much as if a NASCAR driver punching a race official would get him the victory.
Case in point: I worked for two different managers at a plant that was closely watched by the neighbors. The first was simply polite to the inspectors and considered them a nuisance. The second worked with them closely, researched the complaints, discovered new methods of control, and earned the plant commendations from the local authorities, and the State DNR. The plant was slated to receive the companies highest award for overall facility condition and maintenance.
Not bad for a rendering plant making pet food ingredients. It took the BATF to figure out how it burned down.
The quality of the product has nothing to do with oversight by an agency, or the public's perception of it's operation. Any of the three can eventually shut you down.
Most billet receivers are well done, as the programmer has to do it all to get a decent product. The process does allow more latitude in style, while providing an opportunity to add material strength in areas where it can be done.
Overall, the amount of work, time, and labor to put the product on the market was probably never recovered in the few lowers made. The profit opportunity was certainly lost, as much as if a NASCAR driver punching a race official would get him the victory.
Case in point: I worked for two different managers at a plant that was closely watched by the neighbors. The first was simply polite to the inspectors and considered them a nuisance. The second worked with them closely, researched the complaints, discovered new methods of control, and earned the plant commendations from the local authorities, and the State DNR. The plant was slated to receive the companies highest award for overall facility condition and maintenance.
Not bad for a rendering plant making pet food ingredients. It took the BATF to figure out how it burned down.
The quality of the product has nothing to do with oversight by an agency, or the public's perception of it's operation. Any of the three can eventually shut you down.
I know this is thread is old but im hoping you guys still read this
I have inherited an AR with one of these receivers on it and I am at a loss on questions as to what it is exactly, the upper receiver has no sort of marking on it so i dont know if the upper and lower are meant to be together as a package or what, anyone i bring it to just has never heard of it and has no information any help would be greatly appreciated
I have inherited an AR with one of these receivers on it and I am at a loss on questions as to what it is exactly, the upper receiver has no sort of marking on it so i dont know if the upper and lower are meant to be together as a package or what, anyone i bring it to just has never heard of it and has no information any help would be greatly appreciated
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First thing I'd do is confirm that barrel is 16".
Well, starting with Page One and reading both sides of the story in this thread is just about all there is. You might Google the archives at ar15.com.
As said, it's a billet lower. It's not milspec. The upper appears to be just any other M4gery, and the barrel with (pinned?) flash hider does look like it's shorter than 16". It's possibly one of the homebuilt guns that most of these lowers seem to have become.
There's not much more to know because there's not much more to know, a small footnote in the production of over 9 million AR15 guns, military and civilian.
How's it shoot?
As said, it's a billet lower. It's not milspec. The upper appears to be just any other M4gery, and the barrel with (pinned?) flash hider does look like it's shorter than 16". It's possibly one of the homebuilt guns that most of these lowers seem to have become.
There's not much more to know because there's not much more to know, a small footnote in the production of over 9 million AR15 guns, military and civilian.
How's it shoot?
I haven't done much as far as deconstruction on it I'm fairly new to the AR world so i only know how to field strip it. It shoots great, can do half dollar size groups at 100yds, i plan on doing some changes to it, I'm not a fan of the scope, I have no plans to be shooting the ranges that the scope was meant for therefore its a bit more than I need I would like to put either red dot or acog style scope with an iron backup but i'm not sure if i just want to change the upper if its nothing special to the gun itself, I do like the 16" barrel though, any suggestions?
thank you guys very much for the info its much appreciated, I was kinda getting tired of hearing "what is that" when i bring it to someone haha
thank you guys very much for the info its much appreciated, I was kinda getting tired of hearing "what is that" when i bring it to someone haha
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Do you guys know what the value is of one of these? I have one with a mill spec upper and 24" heavy barrel I am thinking about moving.
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