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The NRA: When Spin is All You've Got
4/2/2004
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by Joshua Horwitz

Putting the best spin on its humiliating loss in the U.S. Senate last month,
the NRA is trumpeting a letter faxed to Senators moments before a final vote on legislation that would have granted the gun industry unprecedented legal immunity. The letter, which some Senators hurriedly read on their PDAs, urged members to vote against the NRA's top legislative priority because it included an amendment that would renew
the federal assault weapons ban, which is set to expire September 13.

The NRA argues that its issuance of the letter, and the bill's subsequent
defeat, proves its olitical might. In reality, the letter was a desperate attempt to kill legislation over which he gun lobby had lost control. It's a familiar tactic for the NRA. Even when the facts are stacked against you, spin like heck and never let them see you sweat.

The gun lobby famously pulled the wool over the public's eyes when it
declared victory in the 2000 elections. The gun lobby lost eight of its 10 target senate races that year, and voters in the pro-gun Western states of Colorado and Oregon overwhelmingly approved ballot initiatives to close the gun show loophole. On top of that, Al Gore scored 500,000 more votes than George W. Bush, and swept the 2000 swing states of Wisconsin,
Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Despite this evidence, the media and policy
makers bought the NRA's victory spin.

But no one should buy it now. In 2000, Forbes Magazine dubbed the NRA the most powerful lobbying firm in America and the organization promised to work out of George W. Bush's Oval Office. In 2002, some Democrats clumsily tried -- and failed -- to establish pro-gun credentials in a foolish bid to curry favor with the NRA.

Despite all of this, and after three years of favorable political terrain, the NRA has failed to live up to its billing.

For months NRA leaders brayed about their overwhelming support for the gun industry immunity bill. Yet the bill never came to a vote in the Senate until March 2 - nearly a year after it had passed the House of Representatives. And when it finally did come to the floor, senators approved three amendments that would renew the federal assault weapons ban, close the gun show loophole, and require trigger locks on all new handguns. The gun show bill got more bipartisan votes last month than it did when it was first considered in 1999, the year of the Columbine tragedy.

Moreover, the assault weapons ban garnered support from 10 Republicans, including traditional conservatives such as Senators Judd Gregg (R-NH) and John Warner (R-VA).

Talk about salt in the NRA's wound.

In December 2003, Congress renewed a ban on the manufacture and sale of undetectable handguns -- despite opposition from the gun lobby. The only victory the gun lobby has had -- a series of small provisions that will, among other things, require the destruction of background check records after just 24 hours -- was only achieved by slipping these provisions into a massive omnibus spending bill. The NRA proudly shines the spotlight of power on itself, but had to resort to legislative sneak attacks in the dark of night to get a win.

So where does all of this leave President Bush? Sadly, it appears the
President is also employing the NRA's "emperor has no clothes" communications strategy.

The President has repeatedly announced his support for sensible gun laws, such as the assault weapons ban, requiring checks on all gun show sales, and providing trigger locks. Poll after poll demonstrates overwhelming support for these measures among the American people. Yet last month he didn't lift a finger to save any of these proposals.

President Bush leads the party that controls both chambers of Congress. If
he truly wants to enact an effective assault weapons ban, he can. If the assault weapons ban dies this September under the President's watch, does he really expect the American people to believe it when he blames Tom DeLay?

NRA spin doctors and the President's advisors think so. But we're betting
that mainstream voters have caught on by now.

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As they have so often proved, Republicans are better friends when they are out of power than they are when they are in the majority. They want your vote but they don't "dance with those who brung 'em" to power. They want to run things but they just can't pull it off.
 
Horowitz has missed his calling in life. He should be writing for a comedy series on CBS.

His article is so ludicrous it's actually kinda funny.
 
This looks like spin to me...... I do not think the nra did so bad, after the dems tacked on the bs this bill should have died. I think it is too bad they can change a bill so much from the original intent.
 
A young man who is a conservative, has no heart.

A mature man who is a liberal, has no brains......Winston Churchill





Hook:D
 
Nothing like spinning while you are complaining about spin.
The gun lobby lost eight of its 10 target senate races that year, and voters in the pro-gun Western states of Colorado and Oregon overwhelmingly approved ballot initiatives to close the gun show loophole.
CO and OR strongly pro-gun?

Just where was this little gem discovered? It looks like it came from the Daily Worker or something.
 
The grabbers lost a LOT more than we did.

They lost the AW ban extension while killing our bill. They're too stupid to realize it yet. They'll find out when it expires.

Understand: if the grabbers had put together a coordinated plan to deal with the gun manufacturer liability bill and tacked on JUST an AW extention, they might have gotten it passed.

Instead, they got stupid and greedy, hanging multiple stupidities on it like a giant retarded Chrismas tree. Kennedy, Feinstein and others decided independently to get into a "how dumb can we be?" competition.

Well they "won" all right. Morons all.
 
Everything I've seen from the NRA would suggest that the sunset of the AWB is their top legislative priority, as it should be. If you look at it like that, it was a win.

The recent fight also brought antigunners from both parties out of the closet. The recorded votes on the these issues will be remembered on election day. Most importantly, it was a big strategice defeat for the Democrats, because they revealed that the party is still true to it's anti roots. This won't play well in the battleground states where Gore lost on the gun issue in 2000. Just because Kerry hasn't called for more gun control doesn't me the republicans won't have plenty of recorded votes (including those on March 2, 2004) to use against him.

I look at March the second as the Tet offensive of the gun control movement. They pulled out all the stops and won some key votes that day, but in the end they lost big time. If we can punish the antis in November for the March 2, 2004 vote, we may be able to consign gun control to the scrap pile of failed national political ideas for awhile.

In the meantime, Malone is right, we need to keep our chins down and stay in the fight. Maybe score a KO in November. But remember the antis in both parties must pay with their political lives.

Jeff
 
"Al Gore scored 500,000 more votes than George W. Bush, and swept the 2000 swing states of Wisconsin,
Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Despite this evidence, the media and policy
makers bought the NRA's victory spin."

And yet no mention of the loss of Bore's home state of TN or WV, both Democrat states(more or less), yet lost to Bush due to The Wooden One's gun grabbing policies. It is simply unheard of to not carry one's home state.

I call BS. And, this is "solid analysis of political spin" only if providing a clearcut example of such is analysis.
 
Moreover, the assault weapons ban garnered support from 10 Republicans, including traditional conservatives such as Senators Judd Gregg (R-NH) and John Warner (R-VA).

Warner is not a traditional conservative when it comes to guns. He's always been about 50/50. I'm not sure what his NRA rating is, I think it's about a C or D.
 
Definitely spin. They might have think that their offensive showed that they still have clout, but what their 'offensive' did was show us where they are hiding.

AWB votes

These are the various senators that I am targetting for defeat. I will contribute to challengers to these until these scum-sucking traitorous vermin are defeated and go work for the private industry again. I'll use my income tax return for this. Small price to pay, IMO. :cuss:

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corzine (D-NJ), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea
 
The Senate is dysfunctional

And I let the Rules Committee know about it.

There is no point in quarreling about the details of exactly what happened. A "clean bill" or nothing is exactly what we got.
 
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