brownie0486
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I'm too old for that stuff anymore
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Some Marines Don't Know?
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Some Marines do know.....The Army had some wonderful snipers that worked at night using M14's and night scopes that decimated the enemy. They were not publicized because they were a "secret" weapon. As history goes and as someone mentioned earlier many heroes fade off unheard of. I am not trying to take anything away from the Gunny but I am trying to recognize all of the others who served.
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I remember the DIs telling us about some excellent marksmen who had been Marines when getting us hyped up for the rifle range. I won't post here who they mentioned. In today's PC world, people would take offensive.
I remember the DIs telling us about some excellent marksmen who had been Marines when getting us hyped up for the rifle range. I won't post here who they mentioned. In today's PC world, people would take offensive.
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Hathcock's 2500 Yard Shot...Here's the skinny that I got from somebody who claimed to have been on-site.
The weapon was sandbagged in and preregistered on a designated spot...not to engage individual enemy personnel...but to damage vehicles. When a vehicle passed a designated point, observed by the spotter, the signal was given to fire, so that the bullet and the vehicle would meet at the target area. Sorta like the old VASCAR speed traps. Line to line distance, and calculated speed.
A spotter noticed movement, and determined that it was an enemy soldier, scanning the area with field glasses...and guessed to be a forward observer attempting to figure out where the fire was coming from that was damaging their trucks...and a bet was struck. He moved close to the designated impact point.
It was noted that within a second or two after the shot fired, that the soldier...kneeling at the time of the shot...stood up and was struck high on the chest. It was reckoned that if he hadn't stood up, the shot would have gone over his head.
Anyway...That's the story I got. Dunno how true, but it sounds plausible.
I'd place it in the same category as Billy Dixon's 7/8ths mile hit on a Kiowa warrior with a .50 caliber Sharps rifle. About 99.5% luck.
The weapon was sandbagged in and preregistered on a designated spot...not to engage individual enemy personnel...but to damage vehicles. When a vehicle passed a designated point, observed by the spotter, the signal was given to fire, so that the bullet and the vehicle would meet at the target area. Sorta like the old VASCAR speed traps. Line to line distance, and calculated speed.
A spotter noticed movement, and determined that it was an enemy soldier, scanning the area with field glasses...and guessed to be a forward observer attempting to figure out where the fire was coming from that was damaging their trucks...and a bet was struck. He moved close to the designated impact point.
It was noted that within a second or two after the shot fired, that the soldier...kneeling at the time of the shot...stood up and was struck high on the chest. It was reckoned that if he hadn't stood up, the shot would have gone over his head.
Anyway...That's the story I got. Dunno how true, but it sounds plausible.
I'd place it in the same category as Billy Dixon's 7/8ths mile hit on a Kiowa warrior with a .50 caliber Sharps rifle. About 99.5% luck.
I think that Carlos was more well known when I was in the Marines from 89 - 94 than during the Vietnam era.
This is true. Fame usually follows the career by at least a few years.
it's not about body count but doing one's job so you & your buddies return home alive and in one piece.
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Agreed. Besides who's the better sniper, the guy with 500 200-400 yard kills ore the guy with 100 800-1000 yard kills? They both are very good.
This is true. Fame usually follows the career by at least a few years.
it's not about body count but doing one's job so you & your buddies return home alive and in one piece.
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Agreed. Besides who's the better sniper, the guy with 500 200-400 yard kills ore the guy with 100 800-1000 yard kills? They both are very good.
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Im enlisting here pretty soon ( As a Tanker, I ride my weapon ) and I knew who Hathcock was in 6th grade. The fact a Marine doesnt know this is surprising. I orginally wanted to enlist as a sniper but decided not to and the moment I said sniper, my recruiter immediatly mentioned Hathcock. hm.....
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I'm pretty sure that you are refering to Lee H. Oswald and Charles Whitmann...
that little tidbit has been completely out in the open since the release of "Full Metal Jacket".
and if anyone that takes offense at those facts, is trying to blame training for the results of mental illness.
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