jonsidneyb
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I often hear people say that the revolver is obsolete for CCW duty. I have a different thought on it. I don’t think the revolver is obsolete at all, I think one should carry both a revolver and an autoloader when ever possible. The revolver can do some things an autoloader cannot.
Here are my theories on why one should carry both a revolver and an autoloader at the same time whenever possible. I could be all wet on many of them but they are my current thoughts. This does get long winded so please bare with me.
I was once involved in a shooting, I didn’t have a revolver on me at the time but an autoloader. I grew up shooting S&W 19 and S&W 17 as a child but transitioned to Autoloaders when I started to CCW. Having a firearm on me led to 4 people going to prison, these people had done many armed robberies, I did a lot of thinking after this event and I started to feel that one should carry both a revolver and an autoloader. I also started to carry a proper flashlight after this event, I used to think a light was not important, that changed big time for me.
After I was involved in my shooting, the department of corrections told me that they guys in jail were saying their buddies were going to get me. Well nothing ever happened but I started becoming extra vigilant.
When I would come home I would have the autoloader in hand (rural area) but as I got close to the house, I would switch to revolver before I past the shrubs and got onto the front porch which has walls on three sides and if something happened it would be close quarters.
The gun I would change over to was a 3 inch .357 J-Frame. My reasoning is this.
Reason No1 for a revolver in use in contact distance activity: if anything contacts the slide of a automatic, a miss-feed can occur. This will not happen with a revolver. If you are wrestling around with a gun, the gun may have to be shot inverted or limp wristed, this can cause a failure to feed at times.
If I am going to be wrestling with someone while trying to use a handgun, the revolver seems more positive for me. / Reason No2/ Also the bad primer does happen once in awhile, rare but it does happen. With a revolver, it goes to the next cartridge, its hard to clear a gun if you are wresting around with someone..
Reason No3. This applies to small bobbed and concealed hammer revolvers. Put a small automatic in your front pocket. Ok, now get it out quickly. It's actually hard to do. Now try this with a small revolver, your hand gets around the grip many times easier.
Reason No4. Sometimes an auto is more concealable because it is flatter, but sometimes a revolver is more concealable because it is rounder. Try sticking a small auto in pocket holster in front pocket, often you can tell what it is. Try a Centennial revolver in front pockets of the pants with a proper pocket holster, it does not look like a gun.
Reason No5. Inside the pants works well if you have as little as a blousy shirt, under a T-shirt, thats a different matter. bob the hammer and put a hip grip on it. You can conceal a 3 inch L-frame like that if you wanted to. I would rather carry a J-frame like that but a revolver with hip-grip vanishes under even a fairly tight T-shirt.
Reason No6. Jacket pockets. This is where the Centennial shines. In pants pocket a steel Centennial is fine since the weight is close to the body. In jacket pockets you want one of the lightweights. I am content with the 442 for this. If you sense trouble, slip your hand into your jacket pocket. If you end up in trouble, the shot from the gun already in hand is much faster than drawing the auto loader from your hip. With the Centennial, you can shoot right through the pocket if you have to. When I was involved in my shooting, a person just before had a gun pointed at him while he had his hands in his pockets. If he had a Centennial he could have been pointing right back without the criminal ever knowing.
Reason No7. Weak hand backup. Most Automatics are not set up for use in the left hand with only one hand available it can be very difficult. The revolver as long as you do not need to reload is friendlier to the left hand if only using one hand. If someone is going to grab you while you have a gun out, it is likely to be the gun arm. If you are having trouble keeping control of the gun arm, you might be able to draw your small lefty revolver and blow the guy off of your gun arm (again wrestling with a gun, this is revolver country). Also when firing from cover the shooting hand can easily get hit meaning you need a gun for the left hand. The left hand gun can also act as a backup for your right handed gun. It is faster to draw your left hand gun, transfer to right hand than to reload your main gun.
Ok,,, those are most of my reasons to have both a revolver and an automatic if you do end up needing a gun on the street. The automatic does have some advantages, the revolver has others. Both can deliver accurate fire, both have enough energy against two legged targets but there are different. If you have both, you can play to the advantages they have over each other.
For sometime after my shooting, I carried a 9x23 auto on the right hip instead of behind the hip like I usually prefer, behind the hip carried a 3-inch .357 J-frame. In the jacket pockets I had airweight Centennials in each jacket pocket. I think .38 special is a little light but still in the ball park. If when paranoid while walking after the shooting, hands were in the pockets. It would have looked bad for me to be fondling the Auto on the Hip if I sensed trouble but none was there. I did consider the full sized 9x23 to be the main gun and would draw it first if I thought I had time to do that unless I was already at contact distance, then I would go for the revolver.
As time went by and nothing happened, I started reducing my load. I always have a Centennial revolver where my left hand can get to it. One is either in a left jacket pocket or left pants pocket. Behind the right hip is a full sized auto unless its summer, and I am only wearing a T-shirt. Then I resort the a hip gripped revolver behind the hip.
Here are my theories on why one should carry both a revolver and an autoloader at the same time whenever possible. I could be all wet on many of them but they are my current thoughts. This does get long winded so please bare with me.
I was once involved in a shooting, I didn’t have a revolver on me at the time but an autoloader. I grew up shooting S&W 19 and S&W 17 as a child but transitioned to Autoloaders when I started to CCW. Having a firearm on me led to 4 people going to prison, these people had done many armed robberies, I did a lot of thinking after this event and I started to feel that one should carry both a revolver and an autoloader. I also started to carry a proper flashlight after this event, I used to think a light was not important, that changed big time for me.
After I was involved in my shooting, the department of corrections told me that they guys in jail were saying their buddies were going to get me. Well nothing ever happened but I started becoming extra vigilant.
When I would come home I would have the autoloader in hand (rural area) but as I got close to the house, I would switch to revolver before I past the shrubs and got onto the front porch which has walls on three sides and if something happened it would be close quarters.
The gun I would change over to was a 3 inch .357 J-Frame. My reasoning is this.
Reason No1 for a revolver in use in contact distance activity: if anything contacts the slide of a automatic, a miss-feed can occur. This will not happen with a revolver. If you are wrestling around with a gun, the gun may have to be shot inverted or limp wristed, this can cause a failure to feed at times.
If I am going to be wrestling with someone while trying to use a handgun, the revolver seems more positive for me. / Reason No2/ Also the bad primer does happen once in awhile, rare but it does happen. With a revolver, it goes to the next cartridge, its hard to clear a gun if you are wresting around with someone..
Reason No3. This applies to small bobbed and concealed hammer revolvers. Put a small automatic in your front pocket. Ok, now get it out quickly. It's actually hard to do. Now try this with a small revolver, your hand gets around the grip many times easier.
Reason No4. Sometimes an auto is more concealable because it is flatter, but sometimes a revolver is more concealable because it is rounder. Try sticking a small auto in pocket holster in front pocket, often you can tell what it is. Try a Centennial revolver in front pockets of the pants with a proper pocket holster, it does not look like a gun.
Reason No5. Inside the pants works well if you have as little as a blousy shirt, under a T-shirt, thats a different matter. bob the hammer and put a hip grip on it. You can conceal a 3 inch L-frame like that if you wanted to. I would rather carry a J-frame like that but a revolver with hip-grip vanishes under even a fairly tight T-shirt.
Reason No6. Jacket pockets. This is where the Centennial shines. In pants pocket a steel Centennial is fine since the weight is close to the body. In jacket pockets you want one of the lightweights. I am content with the 442 for this. If you sense trouble, slip your hand into your jacket pocket. If you end up in trouble, the shot from the gun already in hand is much faster than drawing the auto loader from your hip. With the Centennial, you can shoot right through the pocket if you have to. When I was involved in my shooting, a person just before had a gun pointed at him while he had his hands in his pockets. If he had a Centennial he could have been pointing right back without the criminal ever knowing.
Reason No7. Weak hand backup. Most Automatics are not set up for use in the left hand with only one hand available it can be very difficult. The revolver as long as you do not need to reload is friendlier to the left hand if only using one hand. If someone is going to grab you while you have a gun out, it is likely to be the gun arm. If you are having trouble keeping control of the gun arm, you might be able to draw your small lefty revolver and blow the guy off of your gun arm (again wrestling with a gun, this is revolver country). Also when firing from cover the shooting hand can easily get hit meaning you need a gun for the left hand. The left hand gun can also act as a backup for your right handed gun. It is faster to draw your left hand gun, transfer to right hand than to reload your main gun.
Ok,,, those are most of my reasons to have both a revolver and an automatic if you do end up needing a gun on the street. The automatic does have some advantages, the revolver has others. Both can deliver accurate fire, both have enough energy against two legged targets but there are different. If you have both, you can play to the advantages they have over each other.
For sometime after my shooting, I carried a 9x23 auto on the right hip instead of behind the hip like I usually prefer, behind the hip carried a 3-inch .357 J-frame. In the jacket pockets I had airweight Centennials in each jacket pocket. I think .38 special is a little light but still in the ball park. If when paranoid while walking after the shooting, hands were in the pockets. It would have looked bad for me to be fondling the Auto on the Hip if I sensed trouble but none was there. I did consider the full sized 9x23 to be the main gun and would draw it first if I thought I had time to do that unless I was already at contact distance, then I would go for the revolver.
As time went by and nothing happened, I started reducing my load. I always have a Centennial revolver where my left hand can get to it. One is either in a left jacket pocket or left pants pocket. Behind the right hip is a full sized auto unless its summer, and I am only wearing a T-shirt. Then I resort the a hip gripped revolver behind the hip.
