jimmyraythomason
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To me it looks better than the full military version. Now if given a choice between this rifle and an as issued rifle,I'll go as issued all day long however if I found this rifle at a good price.......
Sporterized M1 Garand...
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WardenWolf
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I recently picked up a tastefully sporterized K98 (with scope mounts) and got her to the range today. My $250 investment got me a rifle that shoots 1" groups at 100 yards. Considering I'd have to pay $500+ to get something equivalent, I think I got a very good deal.
The work on my rifle was done back in the 1950's or 1960's. Definitely old. But the quality was top-notch. There used to be a lot of machinists out there. The war effort created a lot of skilled workers who would later turn into top-notch gunsmiths. As a result, a lot of the work that came from that period is of far better quality than much of what we see today. You didn't have the crappy ATI-style bolt modifications. Stuff was milled and welded.
The work on my rifle was done back in the 1950's or 1960's. Definitely old. But the quality was top-notch. There used to be a lot of machinists out there. The war effort created a lot of skilled workers who would later turn into top-notch gunsmiths. As a result, a lot of the work that came from that period is of far better quality than much of what we see today. You didn't have the crappy ATI-style bolt modifications. Stuff was milled and welded.
JohnM
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At one time when I was in the service I had a Mauser and a Springfield both wonderfully rebuilt and reworked.
Fine stock work, beautiful scopes.
Then a time came when I needed money and had to sell them both, still hate to think about it and it was 50 years ago.
Fine stock work, beautiful scopes.
Then a time came when I needed money and had to sell them both, still hate to think about it and it was 50 years ago.
Cocked & Locked
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I like the old "sporterized" war relics. No interest in Mosins and similar however.
I like the old "sporterized" war relics. No interest in Mosins and similar however.
BrocLuno
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Fighter to grocery getter is a cool conversion. It's not needed for battle anymore, so make a hunter out of it. Yeah, I know, it'll never shoot another John C Garand match - so? There are still plenty original M1's out there floating around. AND, I sort of like the idea of a quick follow-up shot 
Beats the hell out of a Winchester Model 100 in capacity and firepower - yah hu !!! Ain't limited to no stinking 3 round clip/mag. As they say, bring enough gun - I think the dude toting this gets to lead
Nice Alaska Bear Rifle
Beats the hell out of a Winchester Model 100 in capacity and firepower - yah hu !!! Ain't limited to no stinking 3 round clip/mag. As they say, bring enough gun - I think the dude toting this gets to lead
Nice Alaska Bear Rifle
jimmyraythomason
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I'll put that in the file cabinet under "O" for opinion.
Husker_Fan
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I was predisposed to hate it, but it is actually pretty tasteful.
FlyinBryan
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maybe it works for some, but i wouldnt have it.
just too much alteration, and that is a major alteration to a gas system already sensitive to muzzle overpressure.
its critical for an m1's propellant combustion to have reached a level of completion before gasses are tapped for operation of the action.
they just knocked some major trusses and gussets off of an already old wooden bridge, and as bridges go, this one bears some serious loads. that aint no mini14 we are looking at. its a full power 30-06.
just too much alteration, and that is a major alteration to a gas system already sensitive to muzzle overpressure.
its critical for an m1's propellant combustion to have reached a level of completion before gasses are tapped for operation of the action.
they just knocked some major trusses and gussets off of an already old wooden bridge, and as bridges go, this one bears some serious loads. that aint no mini14 we are looking at. its a full power 30-06.
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This is not mine, but mine looks like it. It's a M-2 Springfield that is 22 LR. It is equipped with a Redfield rear aperture sight.
I also have a 30-06 lookalike that I think was built at Springfield. The original buyer was a major assigned there and they left the front sight wobbly so he could buy it at a cheaper price. The rifle also had a Griffin & Howe based attached to it and there's an Alaskan scope that came with it. The Redfield rear aperture has to be removed before the scope may be attached.
I also have a 30-06 lookalike that I think was built at Springfield. The original buyer was a major assigned there and they left the front sight wobbly so he could buy it at a cheaper price. The rifle also had a Griffin & Howe based attached to it and there's an Alaskan scope that came with it. The Redfield rear aperture has to be removed before the scope may be attached.
Jonny V
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This is something really sad to look upon. These people who did this have lost their minds..........
JohnM
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makes me want to puke --- an abomination ---- ugly----on and on.
Where are you people coming from? Are the people turned on by old military surplus that narrow minded.
Lighten up and so what's the problem?
When we were in Germany 10 years after the war there was still a huge on going operation destroying millions of pieces of German armament. As kids we used to sneak into one site and watch dozers pile up mountains of rifles and pistols which workers hacked into the actions with big cutting torches and then the huge piles were pushed into pits and buried. You all are probably lucky any of that stuff is left.
The more "sporterized" stuff the more valuable your intact pieces are.
I've got a copy of a book put out by Williams Gunsight Company back prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968 called "Sporterizing The Military Surplus Rifle." It's got pictures of a Garand almost like this one. Back then, a surplus Garand was about $75, and every Army-Navy store in the country had bins of military surplus guns going from $10 up. I got a Model 93 Spanish Mauser as my first high-power centerfire rifle for $23 from Montgomery Wards and butcher. . .um, "sporterized" it after reading the WGS book.
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There was a time when surplus rifles were abundant, cheap, and available through several sources. This was a time when many American hunters did not have near the disposable income we enjoy now. This was also a time when the experiences of war were fresh in their minds and they really didn’t need or care about having a standard issue war weapon laying around.
The quality of these so called "Bubba guns" was usually dependent on the owner/builders skill level or the amount he could afford to pay a professional.
The quality of these so called "Bubba guns" was usually dependent on the owner/builders skill level or the amount he could afford to pay a professional.
jimmyraythomason
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I had that same book from William's Gunsite Company. I don't remember what became of it but I studied it from cover to cover. The Mauser 98 and USGI MI carbine were my favorites!
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