Jaco
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I have a Star pistol with me that I have to sell for a friend.
It is a 9mm SA pistol, and is called a "Super B"
Any idea to it's quality?
It is a 9mm SA pistol, and is called a "Super B"
Any idea to it's quality?
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makarov1989
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Quality is high but unfortunatly value is not. I think Star guns are under valued and under appreciated. I have several of them and they have all impressed me as accurate and well made.
The cost of a Star Super B is between $129-250. Most of the time it is under $200. I think you should just buy the gun from your friend for a price that you have agreed on. Let him take it to a gunshop or two and get a price from a dealer and offer him about twice what the dealer offered him. Twice what the dealer offers is often a good price to buy guns at.
I have tried to buy guns from people I know but they always go to a dealer first and get a price. Sometimes they sell at the crackhead price the dealer offers them just to get a trade or sometimes they just decide it is not worth selling and all of a sudden the gun is not for sale anymore. I have told people that I wanted to buy their gun and to go get a price from a dealer and I will beat it buy $50 or so, but it has never worked out for me.
The cost of a Star Super B is between $129-250. Most of the time it is under $200. I think you should just buy the gun from your friend for a price that you have agreed on. Let him take it to a gunshop or two and get a price from a dealer and offer him about twice what the dealer offered him. Twice what the dealer offers is often a good price to buy guns at.
I have tried to buy guns from people I know but they always go to a dealer first and get a price. Sometimes they sell at the crackhead price the dealer offers them just to get a trade or sometimes they just decide it is not worth selling and all of a sudden the gun is not for sale anymore.
I have told people that I wanted to buy their gun and to go get a price from a dealer and I will beat it buy $50 or so, but it has never worked out for me.George Hill
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The Spanish guns are very good handguns... Generally robust and reliable. Star and Astras are both good values. You get a lot of gun for the price. They are undervalued? Not really, I think they are priced about right.
An example of Under Valued: CZ guns 2 years ago.
An example of guns prices right for the "You get what you pay for" rule: CZ guns now.
One of my first .45's was a Star Firestar .45... It didn't have a very good trigger at all... truthfully, it was horrible. However it was easily able to shoot a 3 inch group at 15 yards, and it NEVER had a jam with any of the rounds - including handloads - FMJ, SWC, JHP... probably as many as 5,000 rounds that I shot through it. I cleaned it and lubed it with only Breakfree - not even the "CLP" version of BF either.
The other Star guns that I have played with on firing ranges have all been about the same.
An example of Under Valued: CZ guns 2 years ago.
An example of guns prices right for the "You get what you pay for" rule: CZ guns now.
One of my first .45's was a Star Firestar .45... It didn't have a very good trigger at all... truthfully, it was horrible. However it was easily able to shoot a 3 inch group at 15 yards, and it NEVER had a jam with any of the rounds - including handloads - FMJ, SWC, JHP... probably as many as 5,000 rounds that I shot through it. I cleaned it and lubed it with only Breakfree - not even the "CLP" version of BF either.
The other Star guns that I have played with on firing ranges have all been about the same.
Jaco
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So went out to test the Star today.
Used old South African military ammo, and didnt clean the pistol beforehand. The pistol was last fired approx 10 years ago.
With the first magazine I had a stovepipe when I fired the last few rounds rapid fire.
Afterwards I couldn't get a the first round of a fully loaded magazine in the chamber, it type of nose dived. But load it with only seven rounds - no problem. So I loaded each magazine with 7 rounds, and fired about 30 rounds through each of the 4 magazines, and except for the first jam, no problems at all.
I didnt fire any HP at all.
After this firing and a good cleaning, the trigger action and racking the slide is very very smooth, and I would say the pistol has good accuracy.
The pistol would be for Home defense for a friend, he lives on a farm where farm attacks are a real possibility, and I think this old workhorse would do just fine. Now only if he can get a lisence for it, that would take about 7 months......
Used old South African military ammo, and didnt clean the pistol beforehand. The pistol was last fired approx 10 years ago.
With the first magazine I had a stovepipe when I fired the last few rounds rapid fire.
Afterwards I couldn't get a the first round of a fully loaded magazine in the chamber, it type of nose dived. But load it with only seven rounds - no problem. So I loaded each magazine with 7 rounds, and fired about 30 rounds through each of the 4 magazines, and except for the first jam, no problems at all.
I didnt fire any HP at all.
After this firing and a good cleaning, the trigger action and racking the slide is very very smooth, and I would say the pistol has good accuracy.
The pistol would be for Home defense for a friend, he lives on a farm where farm attacks are a real possibility, and I think this old workhorse would do just fine. Now only if he can get a lisence for it, that would take about 7 months......
Matthew_Q
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Jaco, good report! Thanks for the info on the Star pistol. Here in the US, the BM model is pretty inexpensive, so I'm thinking about getting a couple. It kinda threw me when you said your friend would need a license, but then I saw the country under your name on the left. Hope it goes through for your friend... everyone deserves the right to own tools to defend themselves with...
makarov1989
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Jaco,
The problems you had are common with the Super B and the B. It is the fault of the mags. The mags were designed for the 9x23mm not the 9x19 so they are a little long for the smaller 9x19.
I had similar problems until I tweaked the mag follower and trimmed the mag spring on my model B mag. Now it works great! Get a few extra mags and you should be all set. I have heard that Colt 1911 9mm mags will work with some minor modifications but I have not confirmed this.
The problems you had are common with the Super B and the B. It is the fault of the mags. The mags were designed for the 9x23mm not the 9x19 so they are a little long for the smaller 9x19.
I had similar problems until I tweaked the mag follower and trimmed the mag spring on my model B mag. Now it works great! Get a few extra mags and you should be all set. I have heard that Colt 1911 9mm mags will work with some minor modifications but I have not confirmed this.
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