Staying out of trouble in Chicago

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Hello,

If all goes well, a career change will soon take me to the city of Chicago. I know I won't be allowed to bring my .357 magnum with me so I am planning to buy a shotgun for overall defense duties, as shown in this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5041397#post5041397

As I understand it to stay legal in Chicago I'll first need to take these steps:
- Move there, gun-less
- Apply for FOID @ police station
- Buy my shotgun
- Go back to police station to register said shotgun
- Re-register shotgun every year, or it becomes an illegal weapon and cannot be re-registered.

Question for our Illinois posters: do I have everything right?
 
aviod housing in cook county and thus retain most of your rights as a human being. outside of cook county and some surounding minicapalities you just need a foid and all non-NFA are legal. the major differance is no CCW . just do a liitle checking for housing outside of daley's domain

smome suburbs of the city itself do not have handgun or assualt weapons ban humanity is just a 15 min metra ride away and the housing is much cheaper
 
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Plainsbilly, I appreciate the suggestion but I WILL be working AND living in the city. The proximity of job and residence I have lined up is just too good not to take. My question right now is do I have the sequence of actions correct?

- Move there, gun-less
- Apply for FOID @ police station
- Buy my shotgun (Mossberg 590)
- Go back to police station to register said shotgun
- Re-register shotgun every year, or it becomes an illegal weapon and cannot be re-registered.

Also, any more legal insights regarding transportation, shell capacity, ammunition types, etc. in the city of Chicago are greatly appreciated.
 
You should take the advice of living neither in Chicago nor Cook County.

There is simply NOTHING in Chicago that I'd trade a broken popsicle stick for, much less a fundamental constitutional right.

I go there once a year to see my mother. I hate every second I'm there. I hate the way of life. I especially hate the disgusting values of greed, bigotry and schadenfreude. If you can't name a race, ethnicity or religion which you hate and want destroyed, you'll feel like an alien from another planet.

The city government is worthy of a third world cesspit, as are the irredeemably corrupt and brutal police.

Daley is a White Mugabe, and Chicago Zimbabwe with snow.

Chicago is now the murder capital of the United States.

It is on a rocketsled hurtling toward bankruptcy.

Try North Korea instead. The people are nicer.
 
Deanimator Senior Member wrote: There is simply NOTHING in Chicago that I'd trade a broken popsicle stick for, much less a fundamental constitutional right.

I too visit Chicago to visit relatives, but disagree in that there are good worth while things in chicago including the museums, lake front, and good places to eat.

True I do not want to live there. The main thing wrong with the city is the Daley machine. Get rid of the horrible traffic and guns laws and it would be a good place to live if you like big cities that is.
 
As I understand it to stay legal in Chicago I'll first need to take these steps:
- Move there, gun-less
Probably best.
- Apply for FOID @ police station
apply by mail to Illinois state police
- Buy my shotgun
- Go back to police station to register said shotgun
- Re-register shotgun every year, or it becomes an illegal weapon and cannot be re-registered.
That is my understanding. Some shotguns, even pump shotguns are banned as well. Check first on just what is and what is not allowed.

It is likely that this will change fairly soon due to a lawsuit filed against the City of Chicago but it may take a few years.

As others have said, there is no real good reason to live in the actual city of Chicago.
 
I too visit Chicago to visit relatives, but disagree in that there are good worth while things in chicago including the museums, lake front, and good places to eat.
I no longer count these things, especially places to eat.

In his insatiable hunger for other people's money, Daley has turned vast swaths of Chicago's side streets into "permit only" parking. I have no desire to spend more for parking than dinner. Nor do I care to drive endlessly looking for a parking space.

As the little Black kid said in the "South Park" "Lord of the Rings" parody after he saw the most obscene film ever made, "I'm out."

Sorry, the game just isn't fun anymore. I quit.
 
Keep in mind there is an assault weapons ban in cook country that prohibits you from owning certain shotguns. On top of that, some places wont' sell to you if you like inside the Chicago city limits.
 
One other thing to be aware of when moving to Chicago.

No ammo until you have a FOID.

AND No ammo or components (Brass, bullets, primers or powder) in Chicago until you get your gun registered and then the only ammo you can have is ammo for the gun you have registered.

A lawyer pointed out to me that it is possible to be arrested in Chicago if you have used .22 rimfire brass in your car.:eek::what:

NukemJim
 
For God's sake you lot, get off your high horses.

A simple request for information is not one for a diatribe on the multiple and manifest problems in the RKBA in Chicago/California/New York/New Jersey etc.

If anything you should actively support those who live in these states and give them an idea of how to fight the good fight. Running away from a problem doesn't make it go away. If your neighbors house is smoking do you throw stones or help them ?

The OP knows the issues and wants objective information, try and stay on topic.
 
The only thing I liked about Chicago was Uno's Pizza and Italian Beef sandwiches. Oh, and Gene and Georgettis Italian Steak House. :)
 
I would like to know the answer to the original posters question also. I may find myself in the exact same circumstances soon.
 
The sequence is right, but you do not have to go to the police station for a FOID card. The FOID is a state "thang" you need one to purchase ANY gun or ammo. You can get the application form on line from the ILL. State Police website.

However, you can't apply until you have an ILL address. (Gota love this state). You send a picture, (don't get to worked up about the nonstandard size of the photo; they actually use the digital photo from you ILL driver's licence.) Cost is $10 and it's good for 10 years.

I live in "King Richards" kingdom. My advice: live elsewhere. You just can't believe how anti this place is, from the government to the media........
 
That is my understanding. Some shotguns, even pump shotguns are banned as well. Check first on just what is and what is not allowed.

I think PGO shotguns are included in the ban. I would think anything with a bayonet is probably included as well. Definitely, check before you buy a shotgun. Also, if it is more convenient, you can go to a sporting goods store to apply for your FOID. They take the photo and send in the application for you. I think paid $15 at Midwest Sporting Goods, in Lyons, Il., a suburb just south of Chicago.
 
I must say again that I understand the suggestions of not moving to Chicago, commuting into the city, etc. but it is NOT going to happen. I will be living and working downtown, period. Deanimator, we must be hanging out with different crowds because honestly I love Chicago and have met many very friendly people there. Sure the gun laws are terrible but that's what I'm trying to get over right now with this thread.

Ilbob, thanks for confirming my checklist. I will make sure to get my bearings first when I actually move to the city.

Are there any other weapon restrictions such as the California-style assault weapons criteria? How about restrictions on portable defensive tools like tasers and pepper spray?

Thanks,
 
You should take the advice of living neither in Chicago nor Cook County.

There is simply NOTHING in Chicago that I'd trade a broken popsicle stick for, much less a fundamental constitutional right.

I go there once a year to see my mother. I hate every second I'm there. I hate the way of life. I especially hate the disgusting values of greed, bigotry and schadenfreude. If you can't name a race, ethnicity or religion which you hate and want destroyed, you'll feel like an alien from another planet.

The city government is worthy of a third world cesspit, as are the irredeemably corrupt and brutal police.

Daley is a White Mugabe, and Chicago Zimbabwe with snow.

Chicago is now the murder capital of the United States.

It is on a rocketsled hurtling toward bankruptcy.

Try North Korea instead. The people are nicer.

I completely agree. Moral bankruptcy eguals Chicago according the new Merriam-Webster's.
As stated before, my niece lives there and runs a good business in Chicago.
Even with all the good stuff at age 45 she's longs to escape the Daley(and Obama)machine and find peace in a non-corrupt environment.
I'm moving to NM in 2 years.I'm motivating her and hubby to make the trek with me.
I think I'll succeed with the coming events.
 
Oh yes, I also own a replica medieval longsword (sharp, 37" blade, 48" overall), a replica medieval dagger (sharp, 12" blade, 17" overall), and a longbow with arrows (field points). These are relics from my reenactment days. If anyone knows any restrictions for edged weapons I would be grateful to hear them.

Thanks,
 
I must say again that I understand the suggestions of not moving to Chicago, commuting into the city, etc. but it is NOT going to happen. I will be living and working downtown, period. Deanimator, we must be hanging out with different crowds because honestly I love Chicago and have met many very friendly people there. Sure the gun laws are terrible but that's what I'm trying to get over right now with this thread.

Ilbob, thanks for confirming my checklist. I will make sure to get my bearings first when I actually move to the city.

Are there any other weapon restrictions such as the California-style assault weapons criteria? How about restrictions on portable defensive tools like tasers and pepper spray?

Thanks,


NoirFan,

First, here is the Illinois State Police FOID page:
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/

You’ll probably need a state ID or driver’s liscense before you can apply.

You will find the application, a FAQ, transportation laws, and other official documents on the page. Of specific interest to you will be the municipal ordinances located at, http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/ordinances.cfm Chicago will be listed on the right side. I don’t live in the city so I can’t help you much there.

Don’t forget to check Cook county http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp?pid=13805&sid=13 , as some regulations may apply to you if you cross into county land while going to a range or hunting site.

My understanding as far as tasers go is that you need a FOID card to possess one. You may not conceal or open carry unless you are law enforcement.

Pepper spray is mostly legal. These guys http://www.projectpurplechicago.com were promoting pepperspray in Chicago a few years ago with some form of official approval. I think it is okay to carry this around as long as you do not conceal it in a threatening manner, which could result in a disturbing the peace charge:

8-4-010 Disorderly conduct.

A person commits disorderly conduct when he knowingly:
………….
(h) Carries in a threatening or menacing manner, without authority of law, any pistol, revolver, dagger, razor, dangerous knife, stiletto, knuckles, slingshot, an object containing noxious or deleterious liquid, gas or substance or other dangerous weapon, or conceals said weapon on or about the person or vehicle; or

A person convicted of disorderly conduct shall be fined not more than $500.00 for each offense.

However, try not to use it in a enclosed area (Like a train):

8-24-045 Noxious gas or liquid.
(a) No person shall use any device to discharge a noxious gas or liquid in an enclosed room in any Class C-1 or Class C-2 Assembly Unit, as defined in Chapter 13-56 of this Code, or in an enclosed room in any restaurant, bar or tavern that is a Class F Assembly Unit as defined in that chapter, if more than 20 persons are present in that room, unless the person is a peace officer, as defined in Section 8-20-30* of this Code, engaged in law enforcement activity. As used in this section, “noxious gas or liquid” means mace, pepper spray or any other substance that is intended or designed to cause irritation to the eyes, nose or mouth, or to cause nausea.

* Editor’s note – As set forth in Coun. J. 4-9-03, p. 106797, § 1; correct cite appears to be § 8-20-030.

(b) Any person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor that is punishable by a fine $500.00, or 30 days imprisonment, or both, for each offense.

(Added Coun. J. 4-9-03, p. 106979, § 1)

Finally, you don’t say how old you are, but if you are in your 20’s you’ll have a fine time. If you are in your 30’s or later, Chicago will test your patience.
 
I won't live in any city let alone one that forbids guns or restricts to a point that they are useless.
I have been offered good positions in them but have turned them down. An uncle was once lamenting about his kids situation in a couple big cities and I told him the same. He was incredulous, when I told him his kids had made their choice and would have to live with it just as I did and that money was not that important.
Think of the schools your kids will attend, the threats that they will be exposed to daily and weigh the risks.
Good luck
 
You people who are criticizing Chicago are probably just scared of minorities and bums. Gun laws and corrupt politicians don't make a city...if you can't see past these things you don't belong in this city anyway and we don't want you.

Cool.Stay there and die,smoothie, in your slime pit loser of a city.:evil:
Cubs 1908,Blackhawks,1960,Bears 1985.
White Sox,lucky in 2005,Bulls since Jordan,scratch.
Daley since forever,corruption,a toddlin town.
Great steakhouses though!:D
 
Getting a FOID card takes some time. It says it takes 30-45 days IIRC but it might take a few months because they are supposedly "backlogged"

Registering firearms requires 2 passport sized photos, a notarized signature, a copy of a Illinois driver's license, a copy of your FOID card...

You're looking at least about 3-4 months before getting a firearm. Unless you drive into one of many bad neighborhoods and then you can buy one from the ice cream man the first day you move in. I'M KIDDING obviously, not about the situation, because thats true, but suggesting that you do something illegal.

Here's what you can't have besides handguns-

http://www.suffredin.org/LegislativeLibrary/Legislation.asp?LegislationID=123&Library=cook
 
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