steel case ammo rust

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Hello all I just noticed during inventory day that a lot of my steel case tula ak rounds are starting to get some surface rust on them. Is this cause for concern or should I disregard. I store them in a cool dry room inside a small metal file cabinet. It's not a lot of rust, just small brown smudges. Thanks for any info.
 
More details needed, but I will put forth my standard "thing" on rust --assuming your smudges are actually rust.

You're near a body of salt water.

Salt water waves create splashes.

Splashes create tiny droplets of salt water.

The water in these droplets evaporates, leaving tiny bits of solid sea salt floating around in the air. These tiny bits of salt can be carried long distances inland by the breeze, where they can be deposited on things, creating rust. They get everywhere.

They even get on things that were touched by things they got on.

How it got through the laquered or plastic coating on your cases I can't say --abraded spots from jostling or feeding through a gun mechanism, from wiping them clean, whatever. But once rust starts it will lift up the coating and creep further. (Rust takes up a greater volume than the ferrous material it forms on.) This could be the cause of your smudge-like patches.

In general, rust will not form from corrosive materials deposited on dry ferrous materials until the humidity hovers around 50%. In general.

Your humidity in Panama CIty is right around 55% this afternoon --I just looked.

I used to live in New York City, [STRIKE]five[/STRIKE] four out of five Boroughs of which are on islands surrounded by salt water. It was virtually impossible to keep ferrous materials from rusting without taking great care in wiping, etc.

Iron fence posts, road signs, tools... everything got rusty. That's why most boating furniture (clevises, pulleys, oarlocks, whatever) was made of brass or bronze.

The war against rust was an ongoing, almost-unwinnable war, regardless of what you were trying to protect.

There. That's my "thing" on living near salt water.

Terry, 230RN
 
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Dead on. I lived in Houston for many years and every time we went down to the beach we spent an hour washing every bit of sand & salt from underneath the truck but it still rusted. Solution? Shoot it and buy brass cased ammo.
 
I have been looking for steel case buckshot or slug loads for my saiga. Where did you get yours?
 
0000 steel wool should take care of it. As long as it's not deep pits I wouldn't worry.

You could take something like Johnsons floor wax and put a light layer but I wouldn't oil it.
 
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Careful, there. You're just inviting jams and difficult extraction... possibly torn-off case heads. :eek:

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Careful, there. Wax is a lubricant and will increase bolt thrust enormously on tapered cases. :eek:

Folks, please give some thought to your suggestions. We're not talking about screwdrivers and hammers and pliers.

We're talking about a little bottle of nitrated plastics which will see 50,000+ psi pressures and high temperatures and violent forces on extraction. :eek:

Terry, 230RN
 
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I used to live in New York City, five out of five Boroughs of which are on islands surrounded by salt water. It was virtually impossible to keep ferrous materials from rusting without taking great care in wiping, etc.

Terry, 230RN
Agree with your assessment.

Only comment I would make is that 4 out of 5 NYC boroughs are islands. Although it's on the coast, the Bronx is the one part of NYC connected to the mainland.
 
^ Duh me. I forgot about the Bronx. I started out thinking 3 Boroughs, Staten Island, Manhattan, and Queens, then remembered Brooklyn was also on Long Island, and somehow jumped to five out of five. Haven't lived there for over 1/2 century.

Let that be the worst mistake of my month.
 
I store them in a cool dry room inside a small metal file cabinet.

I would recommend storing your ammo in air-tight ammo cans or plastic bags. Even brass will tarnish and become brittle if left out and exposed to humid air. The summers where I live tend to be humid and I've had nice shiny ammo turn brown and metal objects rust over the course of a couple of months if not sealed or oiled up.
 
Yep--GOOD ammo cans with seals intact, packed when the relative humidity is lowest is all I ever needed here and I can throw a baseball in the North Atlantic from my yard. I use good condition GI ammo cans but the plastic ones will do unless you fill them too full and then try to lift them up.:p I once had an inexpensive one that I filled with loose 45 ACP ammo and tried to move.:D
 
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