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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by sig220mw, Apr 27, 2008.

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  1. sig220mw

    sig220mw Member

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    I can no longer go to stevespages.com where there is a heck of a lot of data.
    Can anyone out there give me some advice on how to get there again?
     
  2. mrawesome22-250

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    I`ve been unable to access the site my self the last few days. The links provided above don`t work for me either, I get a message saying this;

    Forbidden
    You don't have permission to access /page8.htm on this server.
    You may need to create an index.html page or enable the directory browsing by creating an .htaccess file containing "Options +Indexes".

    Anyone got any ideas??
     
  5. JNewell

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    Check your settings? Works fine here.
     
  6. Flash!

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    site still working for me....
     
  7. steve4102

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    Woks for me as well.

    If I recall Steve's site is using Java. Maybe you guy need to run an update for Java.
     
  8. bluetopper

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    Does anyone but me find the load data he lists a bit excessive?

    He does say his data is waaay over the caliber standards.

    I wonder if he has tried the loads as hot as he lists them?
     
  9. dogrunner

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    Not an awful lot higher.......in fact some of the loads he recommends are actually lighter than those I know to be safe in my guns & thats data I pulled from another site.

    Some is a bit up, IE: he lists one .30/30 load w/3031 with a very slightly elevated load, but not so much that it would appear to be truly excessive tho it does differ with years of published data from Lyman.......like with every load, start a little low and back off it you encounter a problem.
     
  10. glockman19

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    I have the latest java updates and can't get it to load either.

    even through my bookmark.
     
  11. Mal H

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    I checked using both IE and Firefox - got through to Steve's pages without a hitch.

    For those who can't get to the site, see what your security level is set to. If it's too high, that might be the cause.
    [Edit: Nope that's probably not it. I made my security level "high" and still got to the site.]

    Steve Ricciardelli used to talk reloading regularly at TFL, but he doesn't visit any longer. He's a member here on THR, but hasn't come back since 2004. :confused:
     
  12. 308win

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    m.d.woods - don't you have reloading site or is that my dementia acting up?
     
  13. snuffy

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    This is from Steve's rifle reloading page on his forum.

    I have had several people accuse me of "stealing" my reloading data from other sources.

    This is not a fact!

    Up until around 10 years ago all data posted on my Reloading Data Pages was created by me at my reloading benches and fired by me at my shooting benches.

    When I moved up here to the middle of nowhere I found that shooting weather was limited to around 20 days per year, and this was causing a cramp in the amount of data I could test.

    Therefore, I began accepting data fired by two very trusted friends. One in Texas and the other in New Mexico. I have NEVER found any fault with any data they have sent me.

    I have also read many complaints that my "maximum" loads were way above and loads published in any printed manuals.

    This is balderdash, or for you younger reloaders, B**S**T!

    True, my "maximum" loads may be heavier than what is found in today's watered-down and lawyered-up reloading manuals. This is no great problem, since today's manuals, from the same companies, using the same "standards" are as much as 20% lower than they were when I started reloading in the early 1960's!

    I agree with Steve on the CYA stance of the major reloading manuals. Keeping the loads down protects them from being sued by a newbie that starts with a max load, blows up an expensive rifle.
     
  14. rcmodel

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    I find it curious that he lists data for every caliber, and every cartridge, in every conceivable bullet weight, ever known to man!

    There is no way possible one man & two of his friends could have shot & tested all the calibers, bullets, and powders on his data pages.

    Let alone even have access to guns in some of the more obscure calibers he shows data for.

    This smacks of "Load From a Disk" software, and too much time on his hands.

    rcmodel
     
  15. mrwilson

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    I didn't see .380 auto on his list, I was looking for it too.
     
  16. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Look under .355" bullets.

    See, a .380 is really just a 35 1/2! :D

    rcmodel
     
  17. Joemyxplyx

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    I can't load Steve's pages either. Not with FireFox or IE. I was using his pages over the weekend so I don't know what has gone wrong.

    :confused:
     
  18. ants

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    I very much enjoy Steve's reloading pages and find him to be both knowledgable and entertaining. I visit his site regularly.

    But I'm also a realistic skeptic. If he doesn't have a universal receiver for every calilber with a pressure transducer or the old fashioned copper smasher, how does he know the loads aren't higher than SAAMI specification? From reading the pressure signs on the primers? Balderdash, as Steve would say.

    [By the way, most folks have no idea how manufacturers collect data for their load tables, and the quantitative methodology used to establish maximum loads. For those who think the lawyers water down the tables, please arrange a visit to a manufacturer and let them walk you through the process. You will be surprised that strict methodology is an industry standard. And following industry standard strictly is their best defense. Altering the data up or down is a bad defense.]
     
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    Nope does not work for me I even typed in www.stevespages.com and it did not work. I guess I don't neet to read it any way. , Fred
     
  20. Mal H

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    Looking at the front page, it appears that Steve does some system interrogation of the visiting system and might be making some wrong decisions as to what your browser requires. For example, he lists mine as Netscape, but it is Firefox.


    When I load it with IE 7.0.5730.11IS, I get:


    Bottom line, I think he's trying to be too clever and is screwing it up for a bunch of users.
     
  21. steve4102

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    I have yet to find any load data on Steve's site that could not be backed up my some manual somewhere. If you look close and hard you will find that his data can be found elsewhere.
     
  22. bluetopper

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    I've NEVER seen a max load of 4.9gr of Bullseye for a 158gr 38 Special bullet like he lists.

    I ain't trying it in my Model 14.
     
  23. mrawesome22-250

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    I recently tried a load I found on his site. It was a 22-250Rem load of 39gr IMR4064 with a 50gr bullet. The highest charge I've been able to find in a book was 37gr. I eventually got up to 39gr but it was way too hot. The gun didn't blow up or anything, but the case was useless afterwards since it would no longer properly hold a primer. The bolt was very hard to lift, and there was a nice shiny spot on the case head. Someone guesstimated I was around 70,000PSI on that one.

    Anyway, his load was 2gr higher than the Hodgdon site which, to me, is about the highest listed charges out there. Their loads are always higher than the books.
     
  24. rg1

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    This site has some data that may be useful for comparison. They are user submitted loads so consult your data manuals before using. Scroll down to the rifle section and pistol section for the data submitted.
    http://www.reloadersnest.com/index.asp
     
  25. Floppy_D

    Floppy_D Member In Memoriam

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    Page still loads for me.

    I've used a dozen of his loads, and swapped emails with him a few times. Great guy.

    I don't know how many of those loads he hand-tested, but it's a handy website to compare to my manuals.
     
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