Steyr-Mannlicher SM12, do I need this rifle?

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Local pawn shop has one for $2,000, minty, full stock, .30-06, single trigger, comes with a Leupold (not sure of the model).

Seems like a fair price, but will owning this be a life-changing/ mind-bending experience or does it not do anything my sub-MOA Weatherby Vanguard doesnt?

 

[forty_caliber]

Depending on the model, it seems pricey. The all weather stock version goes for about $1700-1800 new. Even then, it's not advertised as a sub MOA rifle. I guess it depends on the scope and any upgrades done by the previous owner.

https://www.steyr-arms.com/en/hunting-rifles/sm12/

.40

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Its got the shiny Bavarian Walnut stock, MSRP on that one is 2,400 as far as I can tell. I figure the scope's worth 3-500 too.

 

[troy fairweather]

if i had the cash i would buy it. can't pass up on a mannlicher especially a full stock.

 

[BigBore44]

It will (hopefully) put 30 caliber bullets where you want them at reasonable distances. It will just look very good doing it. If that’s worth $2k to you then go for it.

 

[Jim Watson]

A full stock is not conducive to bench rest accuracy. Fine for hunting but if you do most of your shooting hunkered down on sandbags agonizing over the next 0.1 MOA, maybe not.

 

[P5 Guy]

Too costly, won't do anything better than a more reasonably priced rifle, cash is better spent on ammo and range time.

 

[LoonWulf]

I wouldnt, but not because I think theres anything wrong with it.
To me the .30-06 is simply not the right cartridge for that rifle, nor would my beloved 7mm rem be. I'd want something a little more Old World.....

If you like the gun, cartridge, and (I'm betting it's decent) scope go for it!

 

[Chuck R.]

I've got an older left-hand Steyr MOD M Mannlicher stocked rifle in 30-06 that's a solid sub-MOA rifle. It has the shorter 20" barrel which is free floated. Bought it for my FIL (He's Austrian) for hunts when he comes over.

IF you're into the full length stocks, the Steyr is probably the way to go. I've got 2 of "Mannlicher" stocked rifles, the Mod M and a REM Mod 7 from the custom shop. Both of mine have floated barrels, so the extra stock length really has no impact other than aesthetics and a longer area to rest the gun on. They pretty much act much like a FF forearm on an AR.

 

[Hookeye]

My guess one would open up the cap.Cap most likely attached to the stock and just covers the bbl.

FWIW I got a Steyr Pro Hunter in .30-06 for $635 shipped (well I had to pay 25 dealer transfer on top of that) last week.
Has a 1 moa guarantee too.

 

[Hookeye]

My Ruger had the cap attached to the stock, slid on and was retained by a single screw.
It had ears, did not fully enclose the bbl.
Also, the ears did not clamp on the bbl, was a bit if space around.

 

[Chuck R.]

To clarify, this is a genuine question, not an attempted "gotcha" dressed up as a question.

How does one float the barrel of a full stock/stuetzen when the end cap is attached to the barrel at the muzzle?

Cap attached to stock, doesn't touch the barrel.

 

[Hookeye]

Buy rifles out of want...not need. Avoids any internet argument....and maybe even drama at home

 

[Hookeye]

Only go around once so if you want it get it. I might still get a Merkel.....just because. Ive wasted so much time energy and money on other crap...divorce and kids in college......at least w rifles you actually have something......and if you change your mind it has worth to others. That other stuff is just for the experience....of pain lol. If you want to pretend you have a family.....take half of your guns and throw them in the lake. Quicker and same result

 

[LoonWulf]

Buy rifles out if want...not need. Avoids any internet argument....and maybe even drama at home

Agreed! Cause none of us can really argue with "cause I WANNA!"

And eventually our significant others either can't tell when a new one comes home, gives up and leaves us alone, or just buys one other their "things" when we get one of ours.

 

[Hookeye]

Good rifles.....the pleasure of them......is a bargain. Almost sinful in being such a deal.

 

[morcey2]

To me the .30-06 is simply not the right cartridge for that rifle, nor would my beloved 7mm rem be. I'd want something a little more Old World.....

Just call it a 7.62x63 to make it Old-Worldy.

Matt

 

[Hookeye]

I buy whatever i want. I pay for everything at my house (which limits the toy fund). If anybody criticizes it they can leave. Lost a lot of decent stuff way back. It has yet to be replaced. Answer to nobody. In fact the ol lady ( the ex ) asked me to buy her a sxs 20.ga today. My response not fit to repeat on a family friendly site LOL. But in that mess i did offer guidance.....said spend more and get the SKB

 

[LoonWulf]

Just call it a 7.62x63 to make it Old-Worldy.

Matt

Ya know, Im gonna start calling my 06 that just to piss off my buddies....

 

[Hookeye]

Cheaper than pit tix to Maiden

 

[Hookeye]

Fwiw my Ruger #1 RSI w bone stock trigger cloverleafed at 75 off the bag w just a 4x. Did that w two diff ammo types too. But i had the forend screw at 15 in lbs. Darn thing was a sweet shooter. Too bad it wasnt a 22" A model or id have kept it. Not benchrest level accuracy but gee whiz.....plenty of bolt rigs w some tweaking dont do that well. Ya want BR accuracy....proly have to build a BR rig.

 

[morcey2]

Cheaper than pit tix to Maiden

I'm too old for that.

The pit, not the music.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Just call it a 7.62x63 to make it Old-Worldy.

Matt

Lol

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Agreed! Cause none of us can really argue with "cause I WANNA!"

And eventually our significant others either can't tell when a new one comes home, gives up and leaves us alone, or just buys one other their "things" when we get one of ours.

Im gonna go back and fondle it (the rifle) tomorrow and report back on if something, uhhh, ya know.....moves.

 

[SharpDog]

Local pawn shop has one for $2,000, minty, full stock, .30-06, single trigger, comes with a Leupold (not sure of the model).

Seems like a fair price, but will owning this be a life-changing/ mind-bending experience or does it not do anything my sub-MOA Weatherby Vanguard doesnt?

Of course you need that rifle!