Steyr testamonial

Status
Not open for further replies.

Flashpoint

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2003
Messages
1,288
Location
the land of rice and mosquitoes
As a final project for my Multimedia class I am building a CD-ROM that would be used as a promotional/users guide for the Steyr M & S series handguns. I would really like to have a testimonial section, but I don't feel right just making some up, because a copy of this will be going to Steyr Mannlicher in Austria. So if you can I can sure use some assistance, and if you don't want to post here just do a PM. I would like to have first name and state of residence, and also maybe occupation if it is somehow gun related.

Thanks for all your help.
 
I dont think I could keep totally positive on it. I try to keep things balanced with positive and negative feedback.

I love my steyr M40's yes I own two of them because I fear needing a spare part and not getting it. at the price of $300 and $380 I couldnt argue with that price considering they retail for $600. the accessory rail stink it needs a adapter to picatinny rail like HK usp has from GG&G. the recoil with the M40 is very manageable though followup shots with 180gr rounds are little slow due to the muzzle rise other than that its like shooting 9mm. the safety is in nice position though it would be better if you could turn safety on the safety from only one side of the gun instead of pulling both side down. you can turn off the safety and shoot the gun in one pull of the finger. the built in lock feature is nice no extra equipment needed besides key though could be disabled easily with paper clip or something though person not familiar with pistol would struggle with it and if they are desperate and in a hurry would ditch the pistol or break it in attempt to getting it to work. triangular night sights would be nice. small and light profile easy to conceal. not as blocky as glocky. looking at picking up a M9 and maybe a S40 cause price and quality is hard to beat accept for HK usp 40's at cdnninvestments going for $369-$399 though trade-in's and used.

major concerns is parts and accessory rail adapter. would like to use light with this even if its a cheap led light bolted onto trigger guard. led lights are pretty powerfull considering size and batteries used.
 
Oh, come on now. I KNOW there are more people out there that like thier Steyrs. I'm not saying you think it is the best thing since sliced bread, just that it doesn't suck eggs. So step right up, don't be shy, voice your opinion. BTW I do need some way of I.D.ing you outside you log-in name, otherwise you'll be Bob from Buck Snort, Tn. :D
 
My name is Bob Soberinski from Buck Snort, TN Population: 612....and Im offended highly by your remarks!

I cant believe the luck we have here in Buck Snort. First our little town is abused by that Sat. Night Live crew that was here for a week and the Producer stole my dear Charlene from me.....

AND NOW THIS! Ill get that producer....once day!

My Therapist says Im doing much better now! :D :D :D :D

Just kidding....Hey Im weird...what do you expect? :rolleyes:

Shoot well
 
PCRCCW

You got my hopes up.

SNL was in Buck Snort? :cool:

I don't watch television very much, too busy, so I'll probably never see the skit.

I passed through Buck Snort twice. Once on the way and once coming back from Kentucky.

It's one of those towns you don't forget, like Oposum Grape and Goobertown Ar. BTW Goobertown has some sweet little hunting spots in it. Had a doe walk within 10 feet of me and stop, she was lucky it was bucks only season.;)
 
I wouldn't go too far with the praise, lest Steyr thinks they don't need to address the deficiencies.

Pro: Excellent ergonomics. Low bore line, lessens recoil.

Con: Triangle sights stink (subjective but....)

Gun is not safe for carry. Several trigger safetys do not address the problem of a cocked striker that has only one thing preventing it's release.: .050 " engagement of the sear. A trigger-activated striker block would immeasurably cut the chances of a mechanism failure AD, but Steyr didn't do that. This will prevent much adoption for LE use.
 
Yah, I've read all the debates. It just seems to me that there are too many variabels to overcome that would lead to a AD. So I choose to carry it and if I end up with a pierced cheek, then I suppose it was ment to be. I just don't see it happening.



Con: Triangle sights stink (subjective but....)

That's another thing about the Steyr you either love the love the sites or hate them. I personal think they are great, the only problem with them is nobody makes any that glow in the dark :(
 
I've got an M40 and I love it.

The sights do take some getting used to, but they work well and aquire fast (hell, you have people yanking the three dot sights off their CCW guns and putting big dot Express sights on them and nobody makes fun of them ... same principal).

As for the safety issues, I read those debates on TFL and here on THR thoroughly and frankly the "Steyr is safe" camp made a much more compelling argument backed up with math and science and such then the "Steyr is unsafe" camp did. I'm sure my Steyr is as safe as any other well maintanied carry gun out there, and is at least as safe as a Glock (if not moreso because of the manual safety).

As soon as I can scrape together the money I will buy an S40 to replace my Makarov as my primary CCW gun (the grip length of the M40 makes it print too much ... although in heavy coat weather it will be my choice over the Mak). Grip length issues aside, the Steyr M is probably the most concelable doublestack handgun of its size out there ... much better then that Glock 23 brick ;) (lots of rounded corners and a real thin grip for a doublestack makes a world of difference). Even though its larger then my Makarov it is more comfortable to carry.

Other then when shooting Wolf ammo, Its been reliable and accurate ... I find it more accurate and comfortable to shoot then a Glock 23 (which is the closest gun to its size and design). The ergonomics are excellent (I suspect that Mr. Bubbitz and I wear the same glove size) as a result the recoil from my .40 feels more like a 9mm.

Its a breeze to takedown for cleaning (easier then the Kahr MK40 I used to own, and easier by far then my Makarov).

The only downside to the Steyr seems to be the availablity of parts and such, which I understand may not be an issue much longer.

It would be nice to have a few other model choices (I understand an L series may be coming out eventualy ... and of course .45 and 10mm versions would be much appreciated).

Oh and I'm Zundfolge (aka Mike) in Colorado Springs
 
part 32 in the M40 manuals I have is drop safety. it keeps the sear from being released while the trigger is forward. I am fairly confident it would pass the drop test.
 
I have had my M40 for a little over a year, I think anyway. I have fire about 5,000 rds. through it and it has been 99% reliable, I have had to fail to ejects one with my reloads and one with factory ammo during a training class. So reliability with my pistol is definitely a plus, as with all guns some people have experienced some less than 99% reliability though. At the DTI class I took this year with this gun everyone that shot it commented on how nice the trigger was, which was the whole class since we swapped pistols around as an excerise, so the updated trigger is definitely another plus. Another comment alot of people was about the sights, the younger people in the class that shot it said the sights were odd and took some getting used to, while the older folks said they liked how easy they were to acquire and see, so I give the sights a plus. The finish has proved to be rather durable and rust resistant, it is NOT as durable as the Glock tenifer finish though and is quite a bit more rust resistant than my H&K HE finish. This is my own experience from doing yard work this summer and sweating all over it, no signs of rust on the Steyr. I have dropped both my Steyrs and most of my Glocks at one time or another and the Steyr finish shows scratches where as the Glock finish shows no signs of abrasion at all even though I dropped it from about 3' on concrete. So I am satisfied with the finish another plus. The ease of take down is rather nice, not quite as easy as my Glock for me to do but about on par with my H&K, both of these require a tool of some sort. The Steyr you have to push in on the internal lock and my H&K I have use something to pry out on the slide lock lever to get it out. My wife however prefers disassembly of the Steyr or H&K to my Glock as her hands are not as strong as mine.

Now the dislikes. First is of main concern to most of the Steyr owners and potential buyers, the lack of support and parts availability. When you compare what Glock has to offer for support it's real easy to see why people would buy them instead. The tactical light rail for all intensive purposes is all but useless, I haven't looked to see if there is an adapter abailble or not, and frankly I don't want one if there is. The light rail accessories are big enough without any adapter added to them. This I'm sure is of some concern to most Steyr owners that would use there Steyr as a "house" gun, my "house" gun is a Glock because I can mount a light on it real easy. Something I personally like the capability of for my "house" gun. The sights are great and easy for most people to get used to, but are not offered as night sights. I find there to be a few transition shots for me to get used to Dot sights instead of the triangle sights of the Steyr, this is of concern if you are carrying a Steyr and using something else as a home defense pistol. I have found that there are very few people locally that could even change the sights on my Steyr if I wanted to, I like the triangle so well that I just deal with the transition and practice between the different sights regularly. The finish on the magazines appears to be different than the finish on the guns and is a whole lot less abrasion restistant than the guns. All of my mags are starting to rust, this is because during practice sessions I do tactical reloads resulting in the mags being dropped. The scratches in the coating are where the rust has started, I know I could change my training or train on a softer surface, but I won't! Not just to accomodate a subpar finish on a magazine. They should serious consider the polymer outside shell that Glock has done on there magazine as they don't rust. Another minus or complaint is that it is not as easy to detail strip as the Glocks, but it is easier than my H&K USP's, I know most people will never strip there's down that far it's just a complaint I have and is not really solvable.

The safety concerns others have brung up are not of ANY concern to me after completely stripping my gun and playing with the action I can't imagine it ever failing, all though poopoo does happen sometimes with all machines and machanisms.

One last thing, how about a 10mm or 45 acp? The 10mm would be awesome and I'm sure it would give Glock a run with the well supported barrel the Steyrs already have in them.

By the way I'm Tom from Michigan.:)
 
House Gun

Uhhhh yeah...

Steyr house gun = Aug/USR :)

M/S series complete the fashion statement.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top