I have a Stoeger 8000 in 9mm. I like it a lot although I have not shot it much. It feels good in my hand and seems to point well. I got it for a carry weapon, it is a little large for that however. I must say that I am VERY skinny so it sort of makes a bulge. That is not to guns fault, just the bony owner. I have been shooting reloads with lead round nose and lead SWC. I have had some problems with leading of the barrel. I have used the same rounds in my XD and in a 9mm rifle. These have some leading but not nearly as much as the 8000. I haven't figured that one out but it is not a big problem, just something I have observed.