Stoeger has those double trigger coachguns, and now those single trigger home defense models. They are both economy or value minded shotguns. Which design is more reliable, more expensive to produce, and why did Stoeger go to the trouble to go for the different system in such a low end shotgun? Anyone have any experiences with the new HD model?
Stoeger Shotguns
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Do not get a stoeger SxS I had a long thread about it and I changed my mind about getting one, I will not buy one.
Link to my thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=517652
Link to my thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=517652
supercopjason
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Stoeger shotguns are fine. They are not top end guns but with the price I dont think they represent themselves as such. I have not shot the single trigger but both would be rather inexpensive to manufacture in Turkey.
I had a customer bring in a coachgun he had just bought that was not opening after a shot. After some polishing he came back to pick up the gun. Without touching it he asked if I wanted to buy it. It is a nice little gun and has served it's self well.
I had a customer bring in a coachgun he had just bought that was not opening after a shot. After some polishing he came back to pick up the gun. Without touching it he asked if I wanted to buy it. It is a nice little gun and has served it's self well.
nicksterdemus
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"After some polishing he came back to pick up the gun. Without touching it he asked if I wanted to buy it."
Ay, there's the rub.
Too many folks want to buy an entry level/budget firearm, expect it to run like a Singer, yet will do no prep work/polishing/lubing/field strip or clean.
It's not an electronic gizmo from the Pacific Rim that only requires a power source, for cryin' out loud.
Not to imply that you can make a silk purse outa sow's ear, but if you do your homework, apply time proven methods w/little elbow grease you can avoid some headache/heartbreak.
Folks are uneducated and unrealistic in their shoe-string budget expectations.
Ay, there's the rub.
Too many folks want to buy an entry level/budget firearm, expect it to run like a Singer, yet will do no prep work/polishing/lubing/field strip or clean.
It's not an electronic gizmo from the Pacific Rim that only requires a power source, for cryin' out loud.
Not to imply that you can make a silk purse outa sow's ear, but if you do your homework, apply time proven methods w/little elbow grease you can avoid some headache/heartbreak.
Folks are uneducated and unrealistic in their shoe-string budget expectations.
With my Mossberg pump I can hit clays about 9/10 times. But then I got a Stoeger Uplander and started hitting clays about 0/10 times. I can't hit a damn thing with it.
That said, it never fails to fire. I'm thinking about sawing it off and just making it a fun gun.
That said, it never fails to fire. I'm thinking about sawing it off and just making it a fun gun.
The Stoeger 2000 semi is a decent gun for the money. I would avoid the doubles. To make a double RIGHT is a much more complex process and done right will not be cheap. You can manufacture a pump action that sells for well under $300 that will be reliable for a lifetime. I doubt if you can make a reliable SXS for double that.
I've owned an Outback for several years now. I like it a lot. It's a good gun. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat. Never owned one of their coach guns, but I'd trust the name I'm familiar with over a roomful of "I've never shot one but I heard they...." any day. It seems like more and more, that's what these forums consist of when folks ask for an opinion.
rich
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I don't have to mash my thumb with a hammer to know it will hurt like he!!. I've seen others make that mistake enough to know. Buying guns is no different. I prefer to learn from others mistakes rather than to just keep making the same ones.
"Other's mistakes" means "informed opinions". If that's what we always had, the world would be a better place. "I don't know, but I've heard...." means "I'm about to spout jack sh*t to try to malign something or someone but I'm going to make it sound like it wasn't me".
The first comes in the form of "my shotgun just broke through no fault of my own....buyer beware". The second usually comes as "I don't know, but I've heard Mossy/Remington/Winchester isn't well made and parts drop off at random....can anyone confirm that?"
Informed opinion is good. Bullsh*t ain't.
rich
I own a basic blued stoeger sxs, was a little stiff at first but after a couple of hundred rounds, it's smoothed up quite a bit. There's a bit of info on the net on polishing etc... but I haven't found a need for it yet. No failures to fire. A bit more recoil then my other shotgun, a winchester defender, even though I put a limbsaver on it. I do plan on cutting the stock an 1-2" to make up for the pads thickness. I don't shoot clays or hunt. I bought it for simple unobtrusive home defense.
I got one second hand, the previous owner did a lot of the break-in for me. The lever that releases the break action is stiff, but it works well enough for trap. You have to pattern these things -- the right and left barrels put slugs about six inches apart at 25y. I do OK with the left (mod choke) barrel for trap. Not a bad deal for $240, breaks into three packable pieces and reassembles quickly, and it's hard to beat the grin torching off two slugs at the same time will give you.
I have a stoeger coach gun as well... so far after this weekend I have a thousand rounds plus out of it...It's a double trigger...I bought it for fun and so far it has been...I did about 2 hours worth of simple mods on it...I have not had any failures or problems with it at this point...I've shot slugs and braved some 3" loads thru it as well...I've heard of problems with the single trigger models and some condors...I'm sure some have had problems with theirs,but I've seen threads on here where guys have issues with their mossies and remingtons as well.. I think sometimes it's just the luck of the draw...YMMV...
OpelBlitz
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Eh, I got a Stoeger Double Defense - and while people make fun out of it, it does work just fine and I got no reliability issues with it. Hell of a lot of fun though. And if I wasn't in IL, I'd saw down the barrel. 
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