It really depends on where you are. In my area, you won't find an AR-15 for less than $900 in a shop. At shows, $799 for an HBAR is easy to find. AK's are even worse. Shows sell the Romanians for $330, but I've never,ever seen a local shop with any AK under $450. Surplus rifles? Forget it, gunshops aren't even close to shows where I can buy them at $20 over wholesale. The real difference is between vendors at the gunshows. If the gun types that you like are only found at small independent non-dealer tables, I doubt you'll ever see a good deal at a gunshow. If the guns you're looking for are sold by internet retailers with a show presence, or guys who buy direct from wholesalers, very few gunshops will ever beat them. I usually walk right past 50 small time guys with $500 rusty K frame Smith's, $300 used Lorcins,$800 "Golden Spike edition" Winchester 94's, and $1200 repackaged CMP Garands to get to the guys with the big plastic signs, and gaggles of people around their tables. That's where the deals are.