strength of a stevens tip up

[1965tinman]

Was wondering the strength of a steven tip up model 35. Have a extra action and wondered about putting on a 32 colt barrel and relocating the firing pin.

any thoughts?

 

[PRD1]

I've owned several Stevens Tip-up pistols, including the Model 35, and have one now. So far as I am aware, they were never made in any caliber larger than .25 rimfire, and no centerfire calibers at all. There were larger, older, Stevens models made in centerfire calibers. The locking mechanism is not at all strong, and most of the Model 35's found today are loose due to wear, and that's from continued use with the original rimfire ammunition. Additionally, the frames appear to be cast iron, rather than milled steel. In summary, I do not believe the Model 35 is a good candidate for conversion to any centerfire caliber.

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

 

[1965tinman]

they did make one in .410. I handled one of those years ago and it "appeared" identical to a 35.. Don't know how it fared long term

 

[PRD1]

As mentioned earlier, there were Stevens tip-up arms built on larger frames, some in centerfire calibers, though I've never seen one in .410. I'm pretty sure the Model 35 frame is way too small (and not strong enough) for the .410.

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

 

[1965tinman]

there is no perceptible difference in the .410 frame and 35 frame, its been years but I remember it well. maybe my memory is fuzzy though

 

[PRD1]

The larger Stevens pistol frames (Lord, Conlin and Gould models, etc.), are substantially bigger than the 35. I might suggest that you compare a .410 or .45 Colt cartridge base and body diameter to the 35 frame and barrel dimensions, to see just how little space would be left for material in the barrel.

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

 

[1965tinman]

maybe the frame I have isn't a 35, I assumed it is/was. Do appreciate your thoughts on this, thank you.

 

[PRD1]

Roger. Because this discussion stirred my curiosity, I got out a Model 35 and made some measurements: The breech of the barrel across the flats measures .635", while the frame recess is slightly wider. The base diameter of a sample .45 Colt round is .475", and the rim diameter is .508". A Model 35 barrel chambered for .45 Colt would have chamber wall thickness of only .080". This, taken with the small frame, the small diameter of the barrel pivot screw, and the minimal locking strength of the side barrel latch would not, in my opinion, make a safe and workable pistol. I would not consider barreling even the larger framed models of Stevens tip-up pistols to .45 Colt, on safety considerations due to the design and construction of the arms themselves

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

 

[1965tinman]

incidentally, not that it means anything . The stevens .410 auto-shot is also called a no 35

 

[1965tinman]

here's my tip up, I always assumed it was a 35. The best bet is to leave my other frame to a 22 lr.

 

[PRD1]

Yes, it's a 35. And quite a nice one. I think your decision on the other frame is the best solution. Also, I recognize the small scoops on your bench, and suspect we share other interests...

PRD1 - mhb - MIke