Striker Fired Failure To Fire Poll
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Never. The only handguns I've had with a failure to fire were a Para 1911 and a Stoeger Cougar. The Cougar only had 3 total, the Para had 1-2 every magazine. I don't own either gun anymore
My Glocks and SIGs have been 100% as well as my RIA 1911
My Glocks and SIGs have been 100% as well as my RIA 1911
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Glock 21s and 22s on a couple occasions when people ignored the cleaning instructions about not letting oil gunk up the firing pin hole in the breech face, leading to strikes so light the primers didn't pop.
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Keep the firing pin channel clean and free from any oil/grease.
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once on a used glock. The tunnel the striker rides in had old, gummy oil and debris in it... i think it was enough to slow down the striker enough to just give light primer strikes.
That was on a Glock 23 that was a LEO trade in.
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That was on a Glock 23 that was a LEO trade in.
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w_houle
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Twice with my Steyr M40A1 and off center fp hits
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Yes, but I will admit that each time, it was the ammo. However, that is why I won't have a gun as a carry gun that doesn't have 2nd strike (True Double Action) capabilities. The glock can't do it, that's why I'll NEVER own a glock. Definitely not for concealed carry. Plus, while the glock is safer than a true single action striker fire that has the striker held back at 100% simply by a spring and sear; it's still not what I want. My preference is a SA/DA pistol. I'll stick with my Sig P220. I'd even prefer my 1911A1 over a Glock or other single action striker fire. UNLESS the striker fire is true double action, then I have no problem with it.
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a bunch with a s&w sigma 40ve
Every striker fired pistol should have the spring and firing pin removed ever so often so the channel for the firing pin can be cleaned out. Learned this on my Glock. My G30 started having light primer strikes. Took out the firing pin assembly and cleaned it and the firing pin channel. You would not believe the junk that came out of it. Also changed the spring while I was at it. Now once every few months I clean the firing pin assembly and hole out. Just part of maintaining my guns. Even with a hole to let crude fall out it still builds up.
I clean it with good old hoppes no.4. Dry it out with hoppes degreaser/cleaner and clean the firing pin and spring with a dry teflon lube. Don't use any "wet" lube in their. Crap will acumulate even faster. It may be 1000 or 100,000 rounds before it crudes up enough for light primer strikes. By why take a chance? When the firing pin hits the primer and returns under spring pressure some gases and debris go with it. Like I said it takes awhile. But it is easy to do and will prevent light primer strikes. It may not light one up when you need it to. Mr. Murphy is still hard at work
I clean it with good old hoppes no.4. Dry it out with hoppes degreaser/cleaner and clean the firing pin and spring with a dry teflon lube. Don't use any "wet" lube in their. Crap will acumulate even faster. It may be 1000 or 100,000 rounds before it crudes up enough for light primer strikes. By why take a chance? When the firing pin hits the primer and returns under spring pressure some gases and debris go with it. Like I said it takes awhile. But it is easy to do and will prevent light primer strikes. It may not light one up when you need it to. Mr. Murphy is still hard at work
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If your failure drills involve the use of second strike capability, you're doing it wrong.
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Do not use any form of lubricant in the firing pin channel. The proper way to clean the slide internals is to use rubbing alcohol. The firing mechanism in a Glock is self-lubricating. The polymer firing pin cups slide in the polymer channel liner.
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Yes, i believe it is Delrin.
Keep the channel for the striker CLEAN and DRY.... no lube at all
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The glock can't do it, that's why I'll NEVER own a glock.
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If your failure drills involve the use of second strike capability, you're doing it wrong.
Exactly, what if it doesn't go off the second time?
The glock can't do it, that's why I'll NEVER own a glock.
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If your failure drills involve the use of second strike capability, you're doing it wrong.
Exactly, what if it doesn't go off the second time?
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I had about 10 or so in one shooting session. I was using CCI Large pistol primers in my reloads. I was Shooting a Glock 21 with fresh springs. I think it may have been a bad batch of primers because I didn't have the problem with the other 990 primers in the case.
I've had it happen on 2 Kahr polymer guns - the P40 and the PM9 have each failed me. With the P40 I was at the range and I had this happen twice out of about 35 rounds. I've never owned a Kahr and they were friend's guns, but after these experiences you can't bet I won't ever buy one... at least the polymer ones, I've heard the metal are more reliable.
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2,800 rounds through my XDM9 in less than a year, has not happened once.
Had one round out of about 1,500 through my Taurus PT140 take 4 strikes (it had a big dent in it after the first one though, probably a bad primer).
It happens more often with my S&W revolvers, actually.
Had one round out of about 1,500 through my Taurus PT140 take 4 strikes (it had a big dent in it after the first one though, probably a bad primer).
It happens more often with my S&W revolvers, actually.
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Yes I have but only with CCI Blazer. I have had the same problem with them in hammer fired (Beretta, Smith & Ballister-molina .45) autos and in revolvers so I suspect the ammunition. I won't carry them but sometimes in the Obama ammunition drought I have a choice of either shoot Blazer or yell 'bang....'
I was getting set for a ton of failures. For grins & giggles I pulled the pin assembly out of my Glocks & found there was a lot of crud building up in the spring. I don't turn the slide upside down to scrub anymore. It lets the crap run into the firing pin channel and stay there.
I was getting set for a ton of failures. For grins & giggles I pulled the pin assembly out of my Glocks & found there was a lot of crud building up in the spring. I don't turn the slide upside down to scrub anymore. It lets the crap run into the firing pin channel and stay there.
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My Training gun has for 2 reasons,
1) i put in atleast one dummy round per magazine to cause one.
2) my training gun gets ran hard, dirty and long days, and if i have a ftf at the range, or while training which is very rare, i replace the spring and clean out the striker channel.
Note on my carry gun, i change the springs when i am supposed to, and i keep it in tip top shape and clean as possible always, so it is not an issue.
1) i put in atleast one dummy round per magazine to cause one.
2) my training gun gets ran hard, dirty and long days, and if i have a ftf at the range, or while training which is very rare, i replace the spring and clean out the striker channel.
Note on my carry gun, i change the springs when i am supposed to, and i keep it in tip top shape and clean as possible always, so it is not an issue.
The Lone Haranguer
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The only problem I've had was with one specific gun and one specific brand of ammo, in this case a Glock 30 and Wolf, respectively. Also, with a Glock, remember that the little hole next to the firing pin channel is not a lube point, it is to let debris fall out. 
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yes.
I've had eight striker fired pistols, mostly Kahrs, but only one has given me light strikes. That one was a Kahr CW9. I think it had a out-of-spec striker. The other seven guns have been reliable.
I've had eight striker fired pistols, mostly Kahrs, but only one has given me light strikes. That one was a Kahr CW9. I think it had a out-of-spec striker. The other seven guns have been reliable.
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However, that is why I won't have a gun as a carry gun that doesn't have 2nd strike (True Double Action) capabilities
You really want to fool around with a second strike if it happens in a fight? tap, rack, and shoot is more reliable.
Learned this on my Glock. My G30 started having light primer strikes. Took out the firing pin assembly and cleaned it and the firing pin channel. You would not believe the junk that came out of it.
I oversaw several hundred Glocks and this happened 2 or 3 times. Leave it go long enough and the firing pin will lock up. This also happened to S&W 6906s. It is really caused by poor cleaning practices. People would dissasemble the gun, turn the slide upside down and slop solvent on the inside to dissolve crap (and letting it seep down into the firing pin channel), wipe the solvent off, it looked clean but all the crap had worked it's way into the firing pin channel. I would clean by using solvent, blowing it out with Ginscrubber, blowing the Gunscrubber out with air, and lubing. All of these cleaning items were available to everyone.
When this problem was recognized by our national firearms staff we were told to take all the slides down and clean out the firing pin channel. Those that cleaned properly had no crap inside, those that didn't had tons of stuff.
This whole problem can be avoided by proper routine cleaning.
You really want to fool around with a second strike if it happens in a fight? tap, rack, and shoot is more reliable.
Learned this on my Glock. My G30 started having light primer strikes. Took out the firing pin assembly and cleaned it and the firing pin channel. You would not believe the junk that came out of it.
I oversaw several hundred Glocks and this happened 2 or 3 times. Leave it go long enough and the firing pin will lock up. This also happened to S&W 6906s. It is really caused by poor cleaning practices. People would dissasemble the gun, turn the slide upside down and slop solvent on the inside to dissolve crap (and letting it seep down into the firing pin channel), wipe the solvent off, it looked clean but all the crap had worked it's way into the firing pin channel. I would clean by using solvent, blowing it out with Ginscrubber, blowing the Gunscrubber out with air, and lubing. All of these cleaning items were available to everyone.
When this problem was recognized by our national firearms staff we were told to take all the slides down and clean out the firing pin channel. Those that cleaned properly had no crap inside, those that didn't had tons of stuff.
This whole problem can be avoided by proper routine cleaning.
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