Stuck Bore Brushes

[Turkeytider]

I know brushes are supposed to be " tight ", but my .223 brushes, both nylon and bronze, actually seem to jam up and won`t move, even with a lubricating solution on them. Of course, my .17 HMR brushes are too loose. Mosty, I just want to include a brushing periodically up in the throat area to try and control hard carbon accumulation. Would a .22 brush be an in between size between the.17 and .223 brushes that might work?

 

[edwardware]

A for-caliber brush won't get stuck. If yours are, sum sing wong.

You aren't trying to reverse the brush in the bore are you?

 

[Walkalong]

You aren't trying to reverse the brush in the bore are you?

This

 

[Turkeytider]

A for-caliber brush won't get stuck. If yours are, sum sing wong.

You aren't trying to reverse the brush in the bore are you?

Nope. It seems I would have to hammer the brushes forward to get them to move. I frankly don`t understand it. Also, if you can`t move a brush back and forth in the throat area, as I`ve seen in videos, how does one scrub that area? Really nervous about using brushes at all now. The thought of a jammed and stuck brush is not very appealing!

 

[edwardware]

Nope. It seems I would have to hammer the brushes forward to get them to move.

My only suggestion is a better class of brush; I like Brownell's Double Tuff as they seem to outlast anything else I've tried. Any chance you're using a center-fire .224 caliber brush in a .22 rimfire barrel?

As for scrubbing a throat. . . a brush undersized enough to reverse in the bore wasn't cleaning anything anyhow.

 

[Pat Riot]

Do you think your bore is leaded up or perhaps there’s a lot of carbon buildup?

 

[Mk-211]

What's the diameter?

I like shooters choice, shows 8/36" for the brass bore brush.

 

[Turkeytider]

Do you think your bore is leaded up or perhaps there’s a lot of carbon buildup?

The guns in question are both essentially new and cleaned after each range trip. What I want to do though is to get ahead of any build up in the throat area and beginning couple of inches of barrel with a bit more aggressive approach. So no, I don`t think that currently I have a buildup. Want to keep it that way if possible.

 

[Turkeytider]

My only suggestion is a better class of brush; I like Brownell's Double Tuff as they seem to outlast anything else I've tried. Any chance you're using a center-fire .224 caliber brush in a .22 rimfire barrel?

As for scrubbing a throat. . . a brush undersized enough to reverse in the bore wasn't cleaning anything anyhow.

No, it`s two Savage .223s, one a 110 and the other a new Model 12 LRPV.

 

[Mk-211]

What you need is a chamber brush for that area.

 

[entropy]

Plastic bristle brushes in the correct size for the calibers will reverse in a barrel easier than bronze brushes.

 

[CapnMac]

Straight-bristle brush ought have the bristle curl back on contact with the bore--which is what makes them so "directional" which ought not "let go" until you get the brush past either the muzzle or the breech (depending on which end your are running the rod from).
Make sure you are using a 223 brush

And not a 6.5mm brush, as the latter is much tighter fit.


Dang it @Mk-211 beat me to the image

of a 223 chamber brush. These want a pistol-length rod, and you come at them from the breech end. This an exercise, too, as you have to twist the thing against it's threading to get any "scrub" out of them.

A shortcut can be this gem from Brownell's

 

[Pat Riot]

The guns in question are both essentially new and cleaned after each range trip. What I want to do though is to get ahead of any build up in the throat area and beginning couple of inches of barrel with a bit more aggressive approach. So no, I don`t think that currently I have a buildup. Want to keep it that way if possible.

Would this help?
https://www.proshotproducts.com/20-Cal-Rifle-Bore-Brush-204_p_359.html

 

[JerkyFreak]

What powder and bullets are you using that you get a carbon build-up after only a few rounds?

 

[Turkeytider]

What powder and bullets are you using that you get a carbon build-up after only a few rounds?

Again, I`m not saying that I necessarily have a buildup of carbon right now. I`m just trying to prevent that from occurring. As to your question, I`m shooting factory match ammunition ( Hornady, Federal ).

 

[SterlingBullet]

I have experienced bore brushes getting stuck in 22LR barrels twice. In both instances, the firearm also would not cycle properly, leaving the slide up to a 1/4” out of battery. In addition, lead strips in corkscrew shapes would fall out of the barrel when cleaning. It turns out, the barrel diameters were slightly smaller than 22LR; likely caused by the manufacturer not changing barrel drill bits before they became worn much smaller than the diameter of the LR bullet.

Hopefully, there is a more simple explanation for your issue.

 

[243winxb]

I now measure brush diameter with a micrometer, before use. Some are over size or marked wrong.

Almost stuck one in my Rem 40X 243 win.

 

[Nature Boy]

Also, if you can`t move a brush back and forth in the throat area, as I`ve seen in videos, how does one scrub that area?

I like these caliber specific VFG pellets for the task.

https://www.brownells.com/tools-cle...ing-patches-mops/weapons-care-system-pellets/

I work them back and fourth in the throat area with some bore paste.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

If you start a bore brush in the chamber end, you must push through til it comes out muzzle end.
I clean the whole bore from throat to crown and I have never once just cleaned the throat or heard of anyone doing that.

 

[Turkeytider]

If you start a bore brush in the chamber end, you must push through til it comes out muzzle end.
I clean the whole bore from throat to crown and I have never once just cleaned the throat or heard of anyone doing that.

Until I did a little research and watched a video of it, I hadn`t either.

 

[JFrank]

Until I did a little research and watched a video of it, I hadn`t either.

Have you removed the stuck brush yet ?

 

[Turkeytider]

Have you removed the stuck brush yet ?

Oh yeah, I finally got it out. Wasn`t really that far in there. In retrospect, I think it`s not making it through the area of the chamber where it narrows down to the neck. Maybe I`m not lubricating things enough prior to inserting the brushes(?).

 

[JFrank]

Oh yeah, I finally got it out. Wasn`t really that far in there. In retrospect, I think it`s not making it through the area of the chamber where it narrows down to the neck. Maybe I`m not lubricating things enough prior to inserting the brushes(?).

Well, moving forward just use the appropriate size brush and a dab of oil without reversing in the bore and you should be fine.

 

[lightman]

Some brushes just fit tighter than others. If I get a batch of tight ones I just put more solvent on them. I never reverse the direction once its in the barrel. If I suspect that I have a carbon problem I use a bore mop and some type of polishing compound like Losso or Flitz. Most of my cleaning stuff comes from Sinclair/Brownells.

 

[TriTone]

If I suspect that I have a carbon problem I use a bore mop and some type of polishing compound like Losso or Flitz. Most of my cleaning stuff comes from Sinclair/Brownells.

So, it’s safe to use a polishing compound like glitz in a bore? That kind of makes me nervous. Isn’t a polishing compound removing the tiniest amount of metal each time you use it? It must be abrasive to polish, right? Just curious