Students face felony charges for downloading AIM and stuff on school computers

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"students and parents were required to sign a code of conduct and acceptable use policy"

I may well be missing something here, but it seems to me the most disturbing aspect of the whole brouhaha is the fact that apparently giving your word no longer means anything to many people- a moral problem that seems to be ever more pervasive in our society- honesty and integrity have become lost values in a society spiraling into a moral quagmire- if these people can't be trusted to do and act as they have said they would in this situation, can they be trusted in any other situation?- I would not want them in my foxhole :fire:
 
Thats just absurd.

I recall @ my high school, just a couple years ago...there were rules but alot more tolerance I guess.
Porn wasn't ok obviously, but I along with most of my C++ class, after we'd finished programming (or hell even during) would take a break and go to random sites (gaming, guns, cars, whatever). Never got in any real trouble for it- except to be told to go back on task.

Modifying comp. settings resulted in JUG ("Justice under God" see: detention- stand & look @ a cinder block wall for an hour)...not a felony.

Some schools are just too d*mn strict and serious these days, for just petty "offenses."

If my school charged people with felony's for instant messenging, there would have been @ least 100 (25% of the class) under arrest...

jeez...
 
Actually, jefnvk, though he mentions Macs, his solution would work very nicely on any *nix box; in fact, I first thought he was using Linux, as /dev/hda is Linux's drive syntax.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to mention Knoppix.
 
Whoops, missed the other reply. Thought he was talking about just replacing teh Windows with Macs.

I really don't see why schools are issuing laptops in the first place. I could understand a system to help poor families get computers cheap, but just giving all the kids laptops?
 
A local county bought iBooks 4 years ago. Now they're selling them for $50 each and replacing them with Dells and fights are breaking out all over. Somebody should get some kind of felony out of this mess. JT

"Henrico deployed approximately 24,000 Apple iBooks to all sixth-through 12th-grade students.
Henrico deployed approximately 3,300 Apple iBooks to its entire teaching and administrative staff.
Each elementary classroom has 5 iMacs for a total of 4,500 iMacs system-wide.
Each high school has at least two PC labs offering student access to approximately 1,200 PC computers."


"The Henrico County iBook sale scheduled for August 9th has been changed. A sale open to Henrico County residents and taxpayers ONLY will be held on August 16th at the Richmond International Raceway.

The main gate will open at 7 a.m. and the sale begins at 9 a.m. Overnight parking and camping will be prohibited.

One thousand laptops will be available on a first-come first-serve basis — limit one per person. The cost is $50 each. Cash or personal checks will be accepted."
 
It sounds to me like they are spending too much time and resource screwing around with computers. Do they just have them in the computer classes or are they in every class? Sounds like overkill.

I guess I am too old. My computer math class had DOS computers. We learned DOS commands, Pascal, and more advanced Basic. No network at all. They didn't even have hard drives. Booted off a disk and saved everything to disks. They were pretty new. They actually had the 3.5" disks rather than the 5.25" disks. I graduated High School in 1990. Saw a 386 with Windows for the first time in college. Things have changed a little in the last 15 years.
 
MechAg, as you suggest, it's not about having computers or not having computers. I never took a single computing class in school prior to college; we had a few lectures on how to use MS Word (no, not a word processor, MS Word), and that's it. In college, I had two very basic programming classes (Java 101 and Data Structures).

Somehow, though, despite my gross lack of computer education, I've managed to become a sysadmin, with a couple of stints as a programmer, including one at an Air Force supercomputer lab. (I identify myself as a flight instructor, and not a sysadmin, to keep people from asking me to fix their computers. And because I'd rather be flying.)

All the concern over "a computer on every desk" is merely a distraction; teachers are trying to find excuses for the fact that they're miserable failures when it comes to teaching, and saying "oh, we need this nifty gadget, then everything will be hunky-dory!" is just the latest excuse. Parents, many of whom are themselves products of the government edjukashun system, seem to lack the critical thinking skills to realize that computers didn't even exist (in practical terms, anyway) when they were in school, and yet, schooling has been going on, with some modicum of success, for centuries.

As is frequently the case, Fred Reed puts it better than I do.
 
Boy it's a good thing I'm not in school anymore. They'd likely burn me at the stake. Opinions on the correct usage of computers varied widely at my school. I used to look at the Magnum Research website a lot. My keyoarding teacher caught me and about went critical mass. Sent me to the office, called my parents, the whole shebang. My english teacher caught me and said "Desert Eagle! FEEL THE POWER!!" I kid you not.

Computer security was a joke. User name and password were a student's full name and social security number. Either one might have been difficult to obtain if they weren't boldly printed on the student ID's we had to wear whilst in the building. (I never wore mine. They never pressed the issue. I'm not sure why.) All you had to do was glance at a person's chest and you had their logon info. If you wanted to conduct some unsavory business on the net, you just logged on as one of the straight-laced kids. Towards the end of the year, I compiled and circulated a list of about thirty names.

I downloaded and printed reams of material on any sort of inane subject. How to build coil guns, potato cannons, weapons stats, etc. Talk about higher education. We had napster and probably every instant messenger program known to man. Text games were popular. Good times all around. :D
 
I just love this Brave New World we live in. When I was the age of those kids, the only way I'd have faced felony charges would have been to use a club or knife in a fight, or steal something (constant dollars) worth a thousand dollars...

Felony?

BS

Art
 
Its shocking how casually prosecuters charge people with felonies these days.Hope they like it hot they = :evil:

Not shocking to me. Lawyers are one of the privileged class and don't live in the same world as ordinary people. Just like judges and higher up politicians.
 
I think that a lot of this new computer paranoia is coming from our "new age" of IT 'proffesionals'. Prior to the big .com boom just about everyone in IT could be considered a computer nerd, and had a truly indepth (and largely self-taught) knowledge of the inner workings of the machines under their charge.

Well, these days IT is a hot job, and a lot of "regular people" are getting into the field. The end result is that a lot of our current techs are people that learned EVERYTHING they know about computers in a class room. If any of you have taken a computer science class at a community college you will know how scary that idea is. One of my coworkers is enrolled in an IT course, and he doesnt even own a computer. He graduates in a few months.

The end result is that a lot of people who are running your tech-support dont know what the heck they are doing, and they freak out when anything gets installed on a machine simply because they have no idea of what it will do or how to fix it. It was a sad day when i learned that i knew more about computers than the majority of the paid on-site tech support personel at my work.
 
Well, these days IT is a hot job, and a lot of "regular people" are getting into the field. The end result is that a lot of our current techs are people that learned EVERYTHING they know about computers in a class room. If any of you have taken a computer science class at a community college you will know how scary that idea is. One of my coworkers is enrolled in an IT course, and he doesnt even own a computer. He graduates in a few months.

The end result is that a lot of people who are running your tech-support dont know what the heck they are doing, and they freak out when anything gets installed on a machine simply because they have no idea of what it will do or how to fix it. It was a sad day when i learned that i knew more about computers than the majority of the paid on-site tech support personel at my work.

And all they have to do is pass a multiple choice test, where the answers can be memorized out of study guides to get the certification.

I've always thought any IT certification class should involve a box of parts and some disks(some drivers need to found). You assemple a couple workstations and a server out of those parts(including a couple bad parts that need to be identified) and then have to demonstrate your network works before you get a certification.

I'm one of those self-taught. Started on a PDP-11 at about the age of 5. Most of the "certified" people I know I wouldn't trust to install a mouse.

As for the crimes. Said "crimes" being felonies is just plain stupidity.
 
Well, these days IT is a hot job, and a lot of "regular people" are getting into the field.

Something that employers have been discouraging in a most darwinian fashion in recent years. This might have been a problem in the late 90s, but not anymore. It is very hard to make it in the software or IT fields unless you both enjoy your work and are good at it. Not only that, you have to suffer through a few years of paying your dues. This also helps keep dabblers out.

I am increasingly begining to think that the answer is homeschooling. Then again, how much could a semi-literate parent teach a child?
 
c_yeager said:
...a lot of our current techs are people that learned EVERYTHING they know about computers in a class room.

It was a sad day when i learned that i knew more about computers than the majority of the paid on-site tech support personel at my work.

"Paper Tiger" is the word I'm thinking of.

I would do what I needed to do to get a job done and when IT heard of it, they would bow up and say I was on "the bleeding edge." Frankly, I am not a "bleeding edge technology" kinda guy. I just want to accomplish what I am supposed to acomplish and won't let a bunch of gelded IT types get in my way. I am polite about it, however, and I don't call them gelded...to their face.

jefnvk said:
Yep, Macs are the answer We can do so much with Macs, like overpay.

FWIW, when me and my friends tried to bring the school computers to a halt, those pretty Macs crumpled first.

Flyboy said:
Actually, jefnvk, though he mentions Macs, his solution would work very nicely on any *nix box; in fact, I first thought he was using Linux, as /dev/hda is Linux's drive syntax.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to mention Knoppix.

I was thinking white box PC desktops (without hard drives) from a reputable local shop with a HW service agreement running a mildly customized CD distro (knoppix, gnoppix, damnsmalllinux). Home space on a file server.

Then, I remembered the laptop requirement & thought a similar mildly customized CD distro installed to the HD. OS gets hosed? Re-install the OS from any number of the CDs laying around or a CD image on a file server. Chrontius is more elegant, however, and considering the size of contemporary HDs, quite viable.

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Felonies for IM? WIll the asininity never stop?
 
All the concern over "a computer on every desk" is merely a distraction; teachers are trying to find excuses for the fact that they're miserable failures when it comes to teaching, and saying "oh, we need this nifty gadget, then everything will be hunky-dory!" is just the latest excuse. Parents, many of whom are themselves products of the government edjukashun system, seem to lack the critical thinking skills to realize that computers didn't even exist (in practical terms, anyway) when they were in school, and yet, schooling has been going on, with some modicum of success, for centuries.

See, this is the kind of crap teachers have to put up with. What other job can you have a Master's degree, and yet any bozo with a 2nd grade education can get on the school board and think they know how to tell you to do your job. You want to know why education sucks these days? Because for the most part kids have no work ethic whatsoever, and they don't have to. Try to flunk a kid nowadays, the parents are in screaming, administrators come and have a cow and tell you to pass them, and you graduate morons. Parents scream they want tougher standards, but not for THEIR kid. Why do you think so many people you deal with on a daily basis are totally incompetent? Because they still get through school and get jobs, no matter how big of a moron they are. One of the same teachers I had in school is still here, teaching AP English. She still does some of the same paper assignments on classic novels, only now instead of 2000 word papers they do 500 word papers, because she says they just can't do a 2000 word paper. You should see the 500 word ones.

I'm currently the librarian for our school. When I started I had a full time aide. This was largely because besides all the library duties, we are also considered to be in charge of all the audio visual stuff, so if some teachers vcr dies in the middle of a movie they are squawking they need you there NOW. I also had to set up my own computer network. My budget has been slashed to around $3000, partly because heck, if you have computers, why do you need books? A set of encylopedias costs somewhere between $1000-$2000 depending on the set. Our newest set is a 2000. We won't be getting a new set in the forseeable future. Our technology encyclopedia set is a 1972 set--wanrt to guess how usefull that is? The computers we have which obviate the need for books? The newest ones I have are pentium 400's, at any given time at least 1/3 are down because of tampering, and I have to find the time somehow to fix them myself--something its hard to do when they have a zillion kids in her from study halls, regular classes wanting to do research, and the odd trouble making kid they have sent here because the teacher kicked him out and the principals "don't like doing discipline". They canned another 7 or 8 teachers for next year, but still have to teach the courses, so I have been told that in addition to all my other duties I have to teach 3 business courses next year. I "shouldn't have more than 20 students at a time"--I have around 5 or 6 working computers at any given time. The main thing I have to be teaching is computers to satisfy state regs. Guess how THATS going to go? Not to mention that all of the teachers who have classes those periods can now never bring their students to the library for research because there will already be a class there, and if you're a student who happens to have your only study hall then, I guess you're going to some public library after school. They have slashed jobs, textbooks, etc, and we have old computers that don;t work, because there is no money, yet strangely we have twice as many administrators, all hauling down six figure salaries, than we did 10 years ago--somehow we can afford that. The local newspaper reported that administrator salaries and benefits have gone up 68% in the past 5 years. Want to know what the teacher salary increase has been? Well, for the past 2 years we haven't had a contract, so it has been 0%--yes, thats 0%. While fuel prices and everything else have been skyrocketing, we have had a 0% increase. The last one we had was 3%, which is less than cost of living. Oh, and there is not a teacher here--even ones who have been here 35-40 years, who makes even CLOSE to six figures.

Oh, and teachers are supposed to get 175 credits of continuing education every 5 years. How many do you need to get for your job? Your job might even pay for them, if they do require any, huh? Nobody pays for ours. Our business manager got a $10,000 raise for finally getting his ONLINE master's degree. We get $400 when we get ours (which is a requirement).

Our one principal (yes, we have more than one in our building) who doesn't like doing scheduling or discipline (she they hired another administrator to do discipline and foisted scheduling a new teacher--for no more pay of course) has decided she wants to "focus on curriculum", which apparently means she tells all the teachers we have to rewrite our curriculum. It now has to be in a different format, and then put in little "houses" with "pillars" and such, so it looks cutesy. We've spent a hue amount of time doing this--has to be in just the right format that she wants or you have to do it over, and they seem to not really have any idea why or how it should be done really, so they can't explain it, they just know when it hasn't been done right. Then they can turn it in to the school board and the state and say "see how we've made all our teachers work and come up with this great new curriculum?".

Sorry for the rant, but there's a reason why most teachers quit in the first 5 years--and its not the kids. I like the job, there is seldom a kid I can't reach. But the BS level is catastrophic, and the best teachers are often the first ones to get drummed out--the ones that just want to teach the kids and are great at it and resist wasting time rewriting their curriculum, say--they are gotten rid of. The ones that couldn't teach their way out of a paper bag and are happy to use the latest buzz words and suck up and are thrilled to rewrite curriculum, particularly if it means they can get out of teaching for a few days since they don't really like kids anyway...well, they are probably future administrators...seriously...
 
What other job can you have a Master's degree, and yet any bozo with a 2nd grade education can get on the school board

Most teachers in my schools had a bachelors.

Not against keepint technology up to date in theschool, but I really don't see how giving every student a laptop helps at all.

BTW, who pays when the little 2nd grader drops his $1500 laptop in the mud and ruins it?
 
You want to add some fuel here. I thought about teaching, well I hold two doctorates, one in business the other in religion. Plus I teach at 3 universities. I was told I had to go back and take undergrad classes because I wasn't a qualified teacher. :what:

I just said HUH? Naturally, I didn't continue this path. Go fig.
 
scubie02:
I agree with you that the parents and the administrators share culpability for the problem--hell, parents should probably be assigned primary responsibility, as they tacitly accept failure from others--but there is plenty of blame to go around, and quite a bit of it rightly falls on the teachers.

To be fair, I've had some great ones, a few of whom I still visit on a semi-regular basis. Many of them, though, were idiots. When a sophomore is pointing out glaring errors--not typos, or trivialities, but fundamental misconceptions--in the curriculum, there's something wrong. Bonus points for it being a new curriculum designed to help us poor little young'uns understand things that only teachers know (yeah, that attitude was pretty common). And no, I'm not talking about the new teachers who didn't last five years; the one I have in mind retired, with a full pension (thirty year minimum, I think), just a few years later. She was so bad that I was drafting a letter of complaint to the school board, and I had the support of every student in the class.

I should probably mention that it was an advanced algebra class, which brings me to my second point.
What other job can you have a Master's degree, and yet any bozo with a 2nd grade education can get on the school board and think they know how to tell you to do your job.
I have found that it's not the "bozo with a 2nd grade education" who are complaining the loudest, but rather the exceptional people who see how badly they were limited by the system. In many ways, this one falls to the administration (and, again the parents/voters/taxpayers): it's considered "unfair" to teach at a level that challenges the bright and gifted, because the below-average (or lazy) can't keep up. While I agree that it's important to make every effort to teach everyone, it's also important that the curriculum not be "dumbed down" to the lowest common denominator. I see that happening.

Third, without attacking the politics of teachers, I do want to attack some of the philosophies. As Fred's article discusses, self-esteem is a steaming load of buffalo chips. Did you hear about the latest news from Britain (I think it was)? "Failure" is to be eliminated in favor of "deferred success." What kind of politically-correct merde is that? That's not just softening the blow, that's completely changing the meaning: "success" and "failure" are antithetical, not interchangeable. I think it was a district in Vermont or Connecticut that forbade the use of red error-marking pens as they were deemed too abusive to the poor dears' self-esteem. I've had the distinct displeasure to deal with a number of these soft, mushy grads in recent years, and I've had no end of trouble with it. They can't handle failure, because they've never been taught that it exists. Guess what, people: in the real world, there is a right way to do things, and there are a whole lot of wrong ways. If you pick any of the multitude of wrong ways, you fail. Period. I'm sure we've all heard the apocryphal tale of the Computer Science professor with the sign above his door: "If you are 90% correct, I will give you a distinction; your boss will fire you." This "deferred success" crap is turning out people with expectations of the world that are wholly unrealistic, in addition to being functionally illiterate.

And, while I'm on the subject of illiteracy, Ebonics is not a language. Period. Neither is SMS/text/IM/1337-speek. I actually had somebody send me a resume* in all-caps, with notable misspellings. I'll bet he still wonders why I didn't even call him back. I've heard occasional grumbles about students submitting such garbage, but I've never once heard of a teacher taking the appropriate action: "Grade: F. This paper was required to be written in English. It isn't." Note that this rubber stamp should be used aggressively in Chemistry, History, and Music Theory, not just English. Classes are not segregated events; you don't get to stop using math when you walk into your Physics class, so why can you stop using English? (Note: papers in other classes should also be mathematically valid, historically correct, and so forth. English isn't just about writing--it's about communicating, and if you're fundamentally wrong, you're not communicating anything worth reading. One of my English teachers--whom I respected greatly--told a story of a student who did a Freudian analysis of Moby Dick, with a large portion devoted to the use of that particular euphemism for the male genitalia. Unfortunately, that euphemism didn't come about until some time later. Oops.)

You mentioned that many of them have Masters' degrees? In what? A BS in teaching, and an MS in teaching (or BA and MA, if that's what the program uses), and you may well be an expert teacher. Fine--but what are you teaching? I've known more than a few who had degrees in teaching, but had no concept of the material they were trying to present. Take away their notes and Teachers' Editions, and they knew about as much as their students. I'm a flight instructor; I have some passing experience in the field, if only tangentially. As part of the process of becoming a CFI, we have to learn about, and are tested on, the Fundamentals of Instruction (that's actually the name of the test). The FOI portion of the Aviation Instructor's Handbook is maybe ten percent of the book. The rest is devoted to understanding flying--flight physics, flight physiology and aeromedical factors, and all sorts of other interesting and important concepts. Consequently, I know enough about those topics to teach them, and to intelligently answer questions about them, even when the questions aren't directly addressed in the guides. That was one of the most useful skills the aforementioned English teacher taught me: the ability to synthesize new material from existing knowledge. I know some very good teachers who are good at it, and I know a lot of lousy ones who can't answer any question that's not directly addressed in the syllabus. Even worse, many will try to BS an answer, rather than admitting they don't know and researching the question (this applies to the population at large, but I'd argue that it's a greater sin when it comes from someone who is in the position of presenting knowledge). I've made a few of them pretty mad when I start picking it apart and demonstrating inconsistencies with what they've previously said.

I'm sure this all sounds terribly arrogant; I've spent more than a few words using myself as an example of how things ought to be done. I certainly am not a shining example of a great teacher, but I was fortunate enough to be taught by a few, and I'd like to think a few of them rubbed off. More and more, I'm convinced that, like politicians and police, communities get the teachers they deserve. If we really gave a tinker's damn about our childred (that's the collective "our," as I have no kids), we'd demand more from them, and demand more from our teachers. It's interesting that in this country, teachers are held in little regard, while in many other countries--particularly European countries--teaching is considered quite prestigious. I'm not suggesting adopting the European style (styles, really) of education, but we could go a long way toward fixing ours by hiring respectable teachers, demanding performance, supporting them when they do right, and rewarding them appropriately. Unfortunately, we just don't care.

Go read Fred's essay; he puts it better than I do.

Keeping to the original topic, now so many posts above us, I'll bet the administrator(s) responsible had no concept of how to handle account privileges. Actually, that's pretty clear: if he did have even a modicum of Clue, the passwords wouldn't be written down on the machine. If you're dumb enough to write the root password on the machine, all your efforts to create restricted accounts are about as useful as handing out bailing buckets to the passengers on the Titanic. I'll leave it as an exercise to the other admins to come up with alternative means of restricting such things (including removing incentives by preventing use of the program, even if it is installed).

In any case, this is not a just felony. Computer crimes are actually getting to be among the worst at being over-classified, in no small part because the relevant people (legislators and judges specifically, and the public at large) don't understand them. When breaking ROT-13 encryption is a felony, it's a clear sign that the legislators didn't have a clue what they were talking about. ROT-13 means shift (rotate) the alphabet thirteen letters--a Caesar cipher with an index of 13. Think "secret decoder ring," and don't forget to drink your Ovaltine. As usual, somebody overreacted in the legislature, creating this possibility, and somebody--more likely, several somebodies--overreacted in the school, resulting in a call to the DA, and thus we get felony charges. Too many stupid people--stupid people in the legislature, stupid people in the (government) schools, and stupid people in the DA's office. I see two common elements: stupid people, and government.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.



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I'm sure teaching requirements vary from state to state. In NY, teachers are required to have a Mater's degree. They may start teaching with a Bachelor's technically, but then have 5 years to get a Master's, if they do not they can not continue teaching.

I am not saying all teachers are great--I see more and more poor ones coming in it seems, largely because they are the same kids who got shuttled through high school and it contined in college. These are the ones that somehow managed to get through a college degree without ever doing a paper.

As far as the smart kids not being challenged--thats more of the "feel good" crap that is foisted on teachers, not something most of them want. Many don't dare say it, but they feel the same way. "Tracking" worked alot better than "inclusion", which says you aren't allowed to put the smartest kids in one class, etc. And so you are teaching to the lowest common denominator.

But its just veting to bitch, because trust me it won't change. The education field is literally just like politics. The people in charge at my school literally do not care about how good an education students get--they make that clear by their actions over and over. They care about test pass rates, but that's two different things. They do things to APPEAR to be doing something, just like in politics. But the real issues never get addressed.
 
I got into trouble on the High School network too. With the right network administration software and the right teacher's passwords (which are just too easy to get) I could do, quite literally, anything I wanted. That's too much power for a 16 year old to have. I made a ton of cash erasing absences. Everything was super until one of the teachers in the computer lab walked up behind me. I didn't get felony charges though... that seems a bit extreme.
 
i am confused

when a school gives students laptops, arent they free to do what they want with them? If they break them do to tinkering then they should be responsible for getting them fixed...

Whats the legal ownership agreement here?

for example, our college gave us software with a license agreement that we can install the software on any of our own personal computers and keep one backup disk of it.

Are these laptops that students take home? who provides the internet? is the filter enabled when they are home using their home connection?

Certain things can be done to computers on school property to make them harder to damage by accident or intentionally. But if these laptops are given to the students to take home and basically own whats up with the internet filters?

How hard is it to block ports on the outgoing internet router? :evil: basically only allowing incoming http and ftp and other necessary services.
 
I will say this: Teaching kids how to maintain (and effectively use, which means HACKING the stupid crap they put on there) computers is one of the most important and effective things a school can do these days.

I was all over our 5th grade network. Then again, *I* set it up and co-wrote the grant to purchase it along with my dad!!!

Going from that to a 'secure' network with 'mere students' not allowed access is completely assinine.

Give the (high school age I assume) kid the laptop. If/when she brakes it, tell her she gets to fix it or do withought!
 
I guess I'm getting old or tired. I think there is enough stupidity here for everyone involved to have a serving.

The district attorney gets a serving for charging them with felonies. I would bet the intent is to scare them into pleading to some lesser charge. A common tactic in Pa. becuase it works.

The school gets a double serving for not practicing good security on their network. It is amazing to me that we keep hearing about this happening. Don't these people talk to each other.

The students get a helping for thinking they would not get caught but, thats what you should expect from adolescents.

The parents get a serving for siding with the students. Yes, we expect kids to do these things. That doesn't mean we support, condone or defend it. Maybe if parents were willing to discipline their kids, the DA wouldn't need to. Can't complain about how the DA disciplines your kids when you refuse to. When my son was a minor working at a local department store he committed a minor theft of store property. The store had a cororate policy of zero tolerance and prosecution of all thefts. I believe the reason they did not prosecute him was due to my reaction when I picked him up. They showed me a very convincing case and I made it clear that he was in deep s*&# at home. The judge would have a hard time matching the justice I planned on imposing.
 
How hard is it to block ports on the outgoing internet router? basically only allowing incoming http and ftp and other necessary services.

At UCF, FTP is a luxury we do without. :banghead:

You have no bloody idea how much time I spent trying to reinstall my operating system from the Debian FTP - it was supposed to be a quick download after class, but it turned into two days of BS and two skipped lunches.
 
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