Suggestions for what gun to hand down later

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My wife and I are having a son in a month or so, and while I was daydreaming during the baby safety class last night about some of the nuances of my childhood, it occurred to me that I wished my dad had been into firearms, and had taught me more about them. (Nothing against him, he did a great job in so many other facets; he just had zero interest in guns.)

It also occurred to me that the most valuable gun to me (despite not being a great shooter or being worth much $) is the gun that my grandfather carried daily when I worked with him every day. Perhaps I’m projecting a bit, but it would mean the world to me if my dad had a similar firearm to give me, so I would like to have the opportunity to do that for my son.

What I think I would like to do, is buy a gun of some kind now to give to my son when he reaches the (TBD) appropriate age/maturity. I think I would like it to be a gun that I carry at least part of the time until I give it to him. I’m also contemplating having some engraving done on the slide, probably at least containing his birthday, although I’m not sure what else.

My personal taste is pretty varied in firearms, and I don’t have much in the way of brand/platform loyalties. I do know I do not want a plastic gun for this particular purpose. (“Here son, I’ve been saving this 4th generation Glock for you for years, even though they are now on the 10th generation, which has a built in neuron-phaser, and a mini-USB port”). Whatever I carry I shoot till I’m proficient with it.

I think I would like to buy something in somewhat of a timeless design. Which brings a 1911 to mind, amongst others. I’d consider a double action revolver, but probably prefer an auto loader. Caliber should be no smaller than 38. And certainly it should be reliable, as I don’t want to buy, own, or hand down anything not highly dependable.

On the way home, I suggested this idea to my wife, who not only approved, but asked if there were any guns that had any particular significance this year. Good grief, I hadn’t even thought of that, I had just thought of guns with timeless designs that I would carry. It can’t be a coincidence that my first child is being born during the (celebrated) year of the 100th anniversary of the 1911.

So far a (compact) 1911 tops the list, followed by a Kimber Solo (not sure on reliability of that one yet, but it’s a gun that I very much like the size/specs/functions of, although I haven’t handled one yet.) I’d prefer to stay at or under ~$800. Lightly used would be OK. Reliability is paramount.

Input I’d like from you guys/gals if you don’t mind.

1) Any reason this isn’t a good idea?
2) What gun should I get, and why?
3) What engraving, if any, should I have done? I’m not thinking fancy designs, more so any sort of sentimental message. Obviously I don’t have room for a novel.
4) Did anyone’s father (or mentor/grandfather/etc.) do anything similar for them?
 
The gun you shoot with your son and teach him on and spend time with him with will probably be a treasure to him forever. The best Heirloom is the one with memories attached to it.

I would find a really nice .22 rifle. Don't even think engraving is even worth it or matters.

All my dad left me was late child support until I was 18 so surely anything is better than that.
 
I agree with the .22 rifle idea proposed by Shienhausser. Hand him down the .22 you teach him the fundamentals of shooting with, and in your will leave him a 1911 that you carry.
 
It's a great idea and one I wish someone would have done for me.

One of my grandfathers had a Luger from WWII that he passed on to an uncle who sold it. I would have loved to have that pistol. It wasn't a shooter, but the sentimental value of a captured Nazi Luger is huge.

If you like 1911s and have the money, look at Ed Brown or Wilson Combat. IMO the Wilson Combat CQB I have is as near perfection as possible and passes the plastic test for aesthetic hand-down value. I've looked into ordering an Ed Brown with plain sides on the slide - something like that might be perfect for what you're thinking.
 
It also occurred to me that the most valuable gun to me (despite not being a great shooter or being worth much $) is the gun that my grandfather carried daily when I worked with him every day.

Sounds like you already have a gun that's primed for passing down to future generations.
 
I have two Savage 99's that my Pop gave me 2 years before he passed on, none of the firearms I have mean more than those 2 rifles do! I'd shot one of them since I was about 9 years old, man that ol' .300 kicked back then..... wish Pop still had them, I'd be able to have them given to me again. I sure miss that man.

Just give him the one that means the most to you now, that'll be the one he treasures from now on!
 
A nice .22 rifle is always a good firearm to pass down. What if he doesn't get into guns? A .22 will always be useful. Or any lever action rifle. If I wanted to pass down a 1911, I think I'd have to stick with Colt. I think any gun you choose, he will cherish because it came from you.
 
My dad was the same way. He liked guns, but didn't own any. I would have liked to have taken him hunting before he died, he would have liked that.
Probably all my guns will get passed down, but I'm really looking forward to handing down my Garand. I will probably ask my son at some point which one of my guns he likes best, and maybe take the hint (he's only seven now).
If I were to specifically buy a 1911 for him, personally I would make it a Colt. I'm pretty sure you can get a nice gently used Colt for at or slightly below 8 bills.
This is a great thread, by the way.
 
What a great thread.
I'd sugest a 1911. Its an all time classic today and will be when your son(congrats) becomes the age you deem appropriate to give it to him. You would have the 100 year ann. of the 1911 attatched to the gun. It would be the american classic .45 acp. You would also have the story to share of how you bought this gun with the intentions of passing it down to him. Good luck with your choice and it will be the best gun purchase you have ever made.
I think this is such a great idea on your part, all my dad ever left me was broken hearted and beaten.
 
http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-goldenboy-personalized.cfm

Great gun to learn the basics on.
If you're willing to refinish it yourself, you could get a H001 series gun and finish/engrave that receiver cover - the H001__ series has a more modern stock angle, the "classic" angle on the Golden Boy doesn't work for everyone.

Personalizing a somewhat modular part of the gun has a lot of appeal, for example you could get a 1911-pattern custom gun with a personalized serial # and then put on custom grips
Custom Aluminum Grips
Or if you want a working gun, you could get a more entry-level 1911 pattern gun (RIA/Citadel/armscor make good guns, at a reasonable price point)
You could go that route with a .22 autopistol as well, Ruger makes the mkIII and recently started putting out a 22/45 variant with replaceable grips as well. And of course you can customize the grips on just about any wheelgun.
 
You can't go out and make instant memories. Your son will come to appreciate your things because you and he used them together. You mentioned your grandfathers gun. That's a good example. I don't know what kind of gun it is. It not valuable to you because of what it's worth. It's valuable to you because of the memories of the time you spent together.

I've got my fathers shotgun. It really doesn't mean anything to me, frankly. He didn't hunt. He got it late in life after I was grown, to use at the local fire department turkey shoots. I keep it because it was his, but it really does't mean much to me. There are no memories attached to it. I never even saw it in his hands, I don't believe. It's just a Sears shotgun, that belonged to my father. It's not "Dad's gun." There is a difference.
 
I think its a great idea. Leaving your child memories and, maybe some value, is a mission of all parents.

Just don't be heartbroken if your child isn't interested. I have two boys in their early and mid 40s. When they were teenages, we hunted and practiced quite a bit. They adopted a couple of guns each.

One or the other has taken antelope in Wyoming, wild boar in Tennessee (revolver) and quail, rabbits, and squirrel, and deer. We raised and trained a couple of bird dogs and had a ball.

Then, sports, cars, girls, college, wives, and children has led them away from shooting. They appreciate firearms. I gave each two or three when they left the house for their search of contentment. I don't believe either has fired a weapon in quite a number of years.
The oldest is a graphic deign/website guru. The young one is a motorcyle nut and runs the parts department in a successful store and also serves as the IT guru.

Make plans but as someone said, be prepared.

I am very proud of my boys and I love them dearly.
 
Its a good idea. The guns that I cherish the most are the ones my grandfather and uncle (my father wasn't a hunter or shooter)taught me how to shoot on. There is nothing special about them and they are not worth much but when I carry them in the field, I try to get them out on at least one hunt a year, they invoke memories of my grandfather and uncle. When my son was born I went through the same exercise but chose not to buy anything new to keep for him, I would pass on the same guns I taught him how to shoot on, and if he wasn't interested in them then they would skip a generation and go to the grandkids hopefully.
 
I think a SIMPLE revolver or BASIC 1911. They are timeless designs and very practical. I wouldn't engrave his birthday though. Perhaps the family name or just some nice scroll work but not a full name or date.

My top suggestions would be (in no particular order):
Ruger New Vaquero (More of a show piece)
Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911
Smith and Wesson J-frame

Lastly, a Henry rifle would be a good heirloom.
 
I can't really see giving a kid a 1911 he can't shoot until he is big enough to hold it up.
And spending the next 10 years getting over the flinch he developed the first time he shot it!

I think a youth size .22 rifle, or .22 revolver like a Ruger Bearcat or S&W Kit Gun is ideal for teaching gun safety & marksmanship.
Big-Bore semi-auto's just ain't ideal training guns for kids.
A .45 is gonna scare the crap out of him when he is 8 years old!!

If it just has to be a 1911 though due to the significance of the 100 year anniversary?
How about this one!
Yea! Thats the ticket!

A Browning 1911 .22RF!!
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=028B&catalog_=B

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I have a .410 Mossberg 500 to pass down to my son when he is old enough, it belonged to my wife's uncle whom my son's middle name came from.

I never met the man, but passing the shotgun down to my son is very important to my wife. I think it will be tough to make my son understand that importance but I'll do my best to teach him to shoot with it and he will probably see it as "dad's gun".

I also have a 22 sears rifle that I'd like to pass down to him but I've already been entertaining thoughts of selling it and getting a Marlin Mod 60 instead so who knows
 
My dad had cancer, and was making lists to give us his guns. He knew he was going, but did not want to mess with his will. He was worried that the people who got his guns would not like what they got and argue about it. I suggested he give them out before passing, and anyone not satisfied could deal with it. He did, and all were happy. I have several, and they are my favorite guns.
 
Teach your son firearm safety. Shoot with him. If you hunt, take him with you. If you reload, show him how and why. He will answer the question of what gun to pass along to him all by himself, in due time.

If giving him a gun made in year of his birth is key, then what could be better than a 1911? I'd suggest a blued steel and walnut model, not a really high end one but one you will have upgraded over time to suit his tastes (as he reveals them to you). Then later, when he's ready, having never let him know that you were mod'ing it to be his dream gun, you present it to him as his very own.
 
"Men make plans, God laughs..."

Neither of my children are the least bit interested in any of my guns. They are not anti-gun, they are just not interested.

Maybe your child will share your interest, maybe not. You gotta give them room to become their own person, hobbies and all. I would not buy a gun with the intent of passing it on later. Buy a gun because it interests you. Let the future happen in its own time.
 
If he wants to give something that he carries every day, then a .22 or any type of long gun is out. I'll vote for the one I just bought - a Ruger SP101. It's nice for small hands (my Mom loves hers) and with .38s it won't kick much. It looks nice, too.

Although there may be the Ruger SP101 year 2024 model that has a built-in red-dot sight with a mini-USB port to import custom reticles onto the sight, but the Ruger will still look like a revolver.
 
another idea would be to wait a while and take him to a gun shop to pick out a gun together. Make it a bonding activity. I worked for a summer for 2.50 an hour for my grandpa. My dad and i discussed which gun would be right for me and when i had the money we went together and bought it. still means a lot to me.
 
The .22 rifle that you teach him to shoot with will be the one that means the most to him. And the time spent at the range and afield, father and son, will mean more than any "thing" you can give to him.
 
I received a little Browning .22 lever action for Christmas when I was 10 or 12. Still have it and it's still just as nice shooting as it ever was. My Dad taught me to shoot using it and his 1962 Colt Frontier Scout (also .22). You can't beat a little .22 rifle or pistol for some good quality father and son memory making time!
 
That is a great idea. I first heard of this from a guy on youtube. Hickok45 did this for his son. He went to a gun shop on the day his son was born and bought him a .22 rifle. He kept the receipt to show his son that he bought it on his actual birth day.
A 1911 is a great idea. He can learn to shoot it when he is old enough to handle it. Awesome. More people should do this for their children.
 
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