T/C Extraction problem - help!

[Red Tornado]

I just sent this email to T/C, but I have much faith in the collected wisdom of THR, so if anybody has any ideas, I'd be grateful.
RT

I just purchased a Hot Shot, S/N HS27030 to take my daughter shooting for the first time on Fathers Day. After firing, the extractor pulls the casing out but it is too tight to be removed by hand. I have to use needle nose pliers to pull it free. I've cleaned the barrel and chamber several times with brass brush, patches, bore snake, and Hoppes #9.

What can I do to get it functioning properly this weekend? I've got plenty of time, I just don't know what to do next.
Please help,

 

[Fremmer]

What does the extracted case look like?

 

[Red Tornado]

It looks absolutely fine except where I scratched the rim with the pliers.
RT

 

[kimbershot]

i have a contender. had a problem with some 223 cases hanging up, making it difficult to open the action. i drifted the roll pin holding the extractor into the frame and withdrew it. the extractor had a slight bow to it. took a ball peen hammer and lightly banged the opposite side on a vise anvil--reinstalled it and no problems after that. if your problem is the same-this may be the fix--just use the right tools, go slow and you won't booger anything.

 

[NCsmitty]

So you think that you are dealing with a tight chamber, rather than a rough cut one? Perhaps a light spin of your brass brush in a drill with some light oil will get you by.


NCsmitty

 

[jbkebert]

Try a couple other brands of ammo including a better grade like a cci mini-mag. If problem persist I would look into having the chamber honed slightly.

 

[Fremmer]

What does the chamber look like under a bright light? Can you see roughness, machine marks, ridges or bumps?

 

[Red Tornado]

NCSmitty, I was wondering about that, the Mosin treatment.
I tried Wolf MT and Rem GB. I can't really tell much by looking, my eyes aren't that good. I'll pull it out and look again.
Thanks.

 

[hardluk1]

Get some mothers metal polish or fitz, Jb's bore pate, what ever. Put some on a patch ,wrap it around a brash and chuck it in a battery drill and with drill running and moveing in and out of the chamber s l o w l y for a couple minutes. Clean well, try shooting again. Bet that fix's the problems.

 

[Red Tornado]

Thanks, I'll try to find some kind of paste after work. Hopefully there's some locally.
RT

 

[Red Tornado]

Here's what I accomplished today.

I got some Mother's Metal polish and wrapped a cloth around a .22 brass brush and chucked in in the drill. Cleaned. Still sticks.

Chucked a .30 brass brush for ~5 min with gun oil. Cleaned, still sticks.

Tried .30 brass with bore cleaner then a .22 bore mop with Mothers, cleaned, still sticks.

Ran brass brush with Hoppes #9 then a bore mop with Mothers, cleaned still sticking.

I've tried SK Std +, Rem BG, CCI Mini Mag, Shorts, and Aquila 60gr SSS ammos.

Any more suggestions?
Thanks for the help,
RT

 

[jbkebert]

Time to call T/C they used to have excellent customer service. I assume they still do. I perhaps would not mention they .30 cal brush thing. Asked to speak to one of the gun smiths and get there advice.

 

[hardluk1]

Send it back

 

[Idaho boy]

T/C Extraction Problems

I had the same issue. Bought a Hot Shot for my son in Sept 2012. It is the Boy Scout version. *I called T/C and they told me to clean the chamber. Not satisfied with their response I dug in and found the real problem. The extractor was outside of tolerance and was allowing the case to swell and get jammed on the extractor. Look at the 6:00 position on the spent shell case and you will most likely see where the case swelled. It is most visible on silver casings from CCI. I sent it to T/C for repair and they offered to replace the firearm with a different model. They said the Hot Shot was being discontinued and could not be repaired. The said the reason the Hot Shot was being discontinued had nothing to do with the quality or functionality of the model.* Could not get an answer from T/C on the reason the Hot Shot was going DXX. What sucks is my son loved the Hot Shot, it fit him great, had a great trigger and it was accurate.

 

[Red Tornado]

Sorry I forgot to update. I'll give the (very) brief version.

After much goat roping I got it sent back and they returned it with no notes and the exact same problem. They did absolutely nothing. That was 7/10/12.

Sent it back again and they replaced it with an identical model this time. (BTW, that requires another dealer transfer. But, he didn't charge me for it.) I finally received it on 9/14/12. The new one works exactly like you'd expect.

I'd have been much more upset, except my daughter didn't really go for shooting. Yet. I'm not going to push her, so we wouldn't have been using it anyway.

I've dealt with S&W customer service in the past and they were very good. This was extraordinarily frustrating.

I haven't sworn off of S&W, and probably wouldn't be getting another T/C anyway. So, it all worked out.
The end.
RT

 

[adelbridge]

HotShot is suited for any outdoor activity. Made entirely in the United States and backed by Thompson/Center’s famous lifetime warranty, the new HotShot offers the entire family a quality .22LR that will be relished for years to come.

lifetime warranty lifted right from their website. I had to send a 25 year old contender in and they even sent me a prepaid shipping label twice (dont ask)