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I am looking for a recomendation on a semi-auto 20 gauge tactical home defense shotgun. This will be for a woman under 5 feet tall and about 100 pounds. Does anyone have any sugestions for a make and model? I was also thinking about converting a remington 1100 but don't really know where to find the parts for 20 ga. Does the 1100 20 ga take a different magazine tube? Where can I find the parts to extend the magazine and carry extra ammo on the gun? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.
 
You are probably going to get a lot of people suggesting 1) pump over semi-auto for reliabilty (debateable) and cost (pumps are clearly cheaper) and 2) 12 ga over 20 ga because of the better ammo selection and availability and sometimes lower cost of 12 ga vs. 20 ga ammo.

The Remington site does not list a factory 18.5 inch barrel for the 1100, the closest is a 21" deer barrel with rifle sights and imp cyl choke. Perhaps someone else does offer them, though? You can order one for the 11-87 as those are also used by police. I don't know if you can switch gauges, rather than just barrels, and I am sure it would not be very economical even if you can. There is no need to change the magazine tube for capacity--three or four rounds is plenty for general home defense.

The big American gunmakers do make security semi-autos, but they are not cheap, and I can't speak to the advantages of one over the other. Ammo selection is more critical with semi-autos since a pump can use very light or very heavy loads without worrying about how it will cycle the action. One import brand I have heard good things about is Stoeger, but I have no personal experience with their semi-autos.

For a dedicated home defense gun, I would also consider the handiness and simplicy of a traditional double barrel--the Stoeger Coach gun, for example, in 12 ga, 20 ga or .410. Despite the 1.5" longer barrel vs. a Mossberg 500, the double is 3" shorter and loaded weight is about the same.

Good luck!
 
Where can I find the parts to extend the magazine and carry extra ammo on the gun?

I am going to assume that YOU choosing a 20 for HER has to do that you think a small woman can't handle a 12 gauge, yet you then want to make it even heavier and more unwieldy by adding a lot of weight at the very end - not the right way to go.

Whatever SHE chooses, needs to fit her - first and foremost - weight, length, BALANCE, handling, etc. I shoot clays with women in their late 60's and early 70's who use 8-9# 12 gauge guns very handily

Try reading Pax's TheCorneredCat.com for more suggestions.

Take her to the gun club (trap/skeet kind), and try to borrow or rent all types in all gauges so she can decide what will work best for her.

Personally, a 12, using the right ammo, will be easier to shoot (once it is fitted properly).
 
You might want to try a Mossberg 500 in .410 (model 50455) just remove the Pistol grip only stock and throw on a bantam stock and you should be good to go,federal's judge buck shot offering should work wonders if the weapon were needed.

Plus the weight and recoil is much less than a 20 (if the lady in question is recoil shy).

Nothing against a 20 but I think this might be more comfortable for her to shoot,with defensive ammo.
 
I completely disagree with this mentality... I don't want what's adequate for home defense, if someone comes in my door... More IS better. Period.

There is no need to change the magazine tube for capacity--three or four rounds is plenty for general home defense.

I know an stock 870 will hold 4+1 with no plug, and you can get 2 and 3 shell extensions for 18.5" and 20" barrel conversions.
 
Mossberg SA-20, there is a tactical model all set up and ready to go. If she is comfortable with a 20ga, then by all means get one. There are plenty of defensive loads out there, just not as many as the 12ga. I haven't read many articles where a bad guy was put down by 20ga buckshot, then got back up and kept coming.
 
Saw a 24" 20 gauge 870 express a while back at a pawn shop for 200 bucks. Does it have to be "tactical? and just what is it that makes a "tactical" shotgun. You going to war with this thing or defending your home? A standard 1100 would work fine, even with a 28" barrel, for ME in my safe room defense. I do, however, prefer the compactness of my Spartan coach gun in 20 gauge stuffed with 3 buck. Still, it's just a safe room defender. If I have to go out of the bedroom, I'll take a a revolver or 9x19 that I carry daily.
 
Mossberg SA-20, there is a tactical model all set up and ready to go. If she is comfortable with a 20ga, then by all means get one. There are plenty of defensive loads out there, just not as many as the 12ga. I haven't read many articles where a bad guy was put down by 20ga buckshot, then got back up and kept coming.
Another vote for the SA-20! You'd have to be pretty hard to please to not like that one!

Heck, I may look at one for myself!
 
In all honesty, simple is better for a new shooter and especially of they don't plan to practice much with it. You may want to give serious to a hammerless coach gun.
 
Thanks to everyone for all of the suggestions. I am looking into the sa-20 and attempting to find one for her to play with.

A word to the wise never assume or say never. She HAS been to the range to try many different types of shotguns. SHE liked the 1100 in 20 ga the best. However SHE wants a higher magazine capacity and extra ammo on the gun. Also she is not a new shooter and not at all recoil shy. I asked about alternatives just to see if there was something she had not gotten to try out. She also doesn't like pump guns but that is just "personal preference" as she puts it.

Thanks again for all the help. Even those who assumed a lot had good advice the assumptions were just not true.
 
I'd vote S-20 too except, from all I've read, the overall consensus is they "can" be a bit finicky which is not a good thing with a HD/SD firearm.
 
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