Hi, I been thinking of getting a tactical 22 for a while and the few I have narrowed it down to are the S&W M&P 15-22 or the SIG522. A couple of people told me to stay away from the Colt and the AK 22’s but also suggested the Keltec SU-22 does keltec make good firearms? Is there any truth that HK is going to make a 22 also?
Tactical 22 rifles
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Flobert
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I love my Tactical Marlin 'O' Doom, it's all black and a bolt-action. I have lots of maggies for it and no Harris Bipod, but I can always stick two fingers down somehow ..... and make bipod-clicking sounds when I do so. Actually, I just remembered I've got a rather nice new National Match sling on hand, I can dye that black with shoe dye and it's already got the parkerized hooks on it ... Ooooh, tactical!
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Can't go wrong with either the M&P15-22 or the Sig 522. I personally went with the Sig and think it was to date the smartest firearms purchase I have made. Absolutely flawless in over 1200 rounds, not 1 malfuntion either ammo or rifle related. Slapped a Primary Arms M3 red dot on it and it is the most fun I've had shooting. I chose the Sig over the S&W based on aesthetics and also because the Sig has a metal upper. No experience with the Keltec and haven't really read anything of substance on them. I would narrow it down to just the S&W and the Sig and do the research, some decent videos on youtube about both also.
M&P 15-22 over the Sig. I have not had good experiences with Sig. I finally went a different route and got a kel tec plr22. Its ammo sensitive but as long as I use the federal bulk packs it feeds flawlessly. Accurate as all heck and handy/easy to store too.
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There is nothing at all wrong with the Colt. Everything I have read negative about it is either flat wrong or just trivial stuff that is an imagined problem. I have one. It is not a problem to clean and doesn't need to be stripped to clean. It's very accurate. I have shot a S&W too. It's not a accurate as the Colt and has had fail to feed problems. It's only a month old so S&W hasn't completely corrected their early problems with it.
The Colt pretty well duplicates the fell of the real thing. The S&W feels kind of like a toy or one of the CO2 BB replicas.
The Colt pretty well duplicates the fell of the real thing. The S&W feels kind of like a toy or one of the CO2 BB replicas.
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You've had issues with Sig or with this particular model Sig? If it's with a different model than the 522 than you might want to give this one a go, might change your whole outlook on Sig. It really is that good. It's not ammo finicky at all. S&W, Colt, both good choices, but I'd put my Sig 522 up against ANY M&P15-22 or Colt to see which would malfunction first.
I've fired the Sig. It's a fun little rifle. I just didn't like the trigger pull. I wound up going with the Smith. I'll take polymer over the pot metal that the Colt is made of any day. The mags for the Smith are inexpensive and are nicely built. The biggest plus, to me, that the Smith has going for it is that most of the lower parts are interchangable with those of an AR15. What that means in use is that your Smith can have a really nice trigger. The downside is that my Smith hates bulk Federal, but runs like a champ on Winchester Expert.
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I've got the S&W, my only complaint is that it isn't as accurate as I had hoped. Slappped a Sweet 22 3-9x40 scope on there but can't get better than about 2" - 2.5" at 50 yards. Ive tried Stingers, Winchester 555's 36gr hp and Federal 40gr solids. Granted this isn't target grade ammo, but my Marlin 25 bolt shoots around 1" at this range. Maybe there is a round it likes more? Functioning wise, flawless.
My experience with the Colt 22
I bought the Colt 22 when it first arrived on the scene, and had nothing but trouble with it. There is an adjustment screw inside to adjust it to different ammo, but I never was able to fire more than 10 rounds without a stoppage. And not a misfeed stoppage, but not firing at all. The case would have a slight dimple in it, but I guess the firing pin was just not hitting hard enough. I tried all kinds of ammo, and adjusted the screw until I was blue in the face. I finally traded it in. Too bad, becuase if it had shot every time I pulled the trigger, it would have been worth every penny.
I bought the Colt 22 when it first arrived on the scene, and had nothing but trouble with it. There is an adjustment screw inside to adjust it to different ammo, but I never was able to fire more than 10 rounds without a stoppage. And not a misfeed stoppage, but not firing at all. The case would have a slight dimple in it, but I guess the firing pin was just not hitting hard enough. I tried all kinds of ammo, and adjusted the screw until I was blue in the face. I finally traded it in. Too bad, becuase if it had shot every time I pulled the trigger, it would have been worth every penny.
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Get the Sig, problem solved.
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Some more of that about Colt that isn't true. The Colt receiver is aluminum and aluminum isn't pot metal. I turned the screw all the way in on the Colt for HV ammo just like the Colt video said to. I've also shot std. velocity ammo at this setting just to see what would happen. It shot the std. just like it did the hi-v. No problem at all.
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I've formed the following opinions after a great many discussions about these guns on RFC:
The S&W is a good gun but many feel it is too light and cheap feeling. All the integrated plastic is a downside for me. Magazines are strictly proprietary.
The Ruger SR-22 is a quality and solid feeling rifle. It accepts all AR furniture and is composed 90% of aluminum and steel. The upside is that it is a 10/22 which means it's a highly reliable platform with a huge aftermarket support. It can be as accurate as you want it to be. Barrels are plentiful and can be swapped with common hand tools. Which is untrue of ANY other model. With the excellent TI 25rd magazines as well as BDM drums, capacity is a non-issue. The downside is that it is not an AR, the controls are completely different so it makes for a poor understudy to the AR platform.
I've heard far too many complaints about the Colt/Umarex to take a chance on one.
Out of the box, the SIG seems to be the best of the bunch. It feels like a real rifle and nothing about it screams "cheap". It uses BDM magazines and can be had with either the standard "classic" forend or the SWAT model with quad rail. It's also a side folder.
As far as triggers go, I expect ANY factory rifle I buy to have a heavy lawyered-up trigger.
The S&W is a good gun but many feel it is too light and cheap feeling. All the integrated plastic is a downside for me. Magazines are strictly proprietary.
The Ruger SR-22 is a quality and solid feeling rifle. It accepts all AR furniture and is composed 90% of aluminum and steel. The upside is that it is a 10/22 which means it's a highly reliable platform with a huge aftermarket support. It can be as accurate as you want it to be. Barrels are plentiful and can be swapped with common hand tools. Which is untrue of ANY other model. With the excellent TI 25rd magazines as well as BDM drums, capacity is a non-issue. The downside is that it is not an AR, the controls are completely different so it makes for a poor understudy to the AR platform.
I've heard far too many complaints about the Colt/Umarex to take a chance on one.
Out of the box, the SIG seems to be the best of the bunch. It feels like a real rifle and nothing about it screams "cheap". It uses BDM magazines and can be had with either the standard "classic" forend or the SWAT model with quad rail. It's also a side folder.
As far as triggers go, I expect ANY factory rifle I buy to have a heavy lawyered-up trigger.
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