questions on the tactical 22's

[benzy2]

The thing I've noted with the ground up builds like the S&W and Colt are that the function well. I have recurring nightmares about the conversion kit I tossed in an AR. It never got 10 rounds through without a problem. I hated it. That is a big reason I went with a rifle built for .22lr that looks like something else, rather than a .223 with a conversion tossed in. I'm sure others have smooth running conversions, but mine was terrible and was something I didn't want to chance again.

I also like mag availability, price, and reliability with the S&W. If it were me, I'd go look at the Colt, S&W, and Sig and pick the one that felt right and enjoy it. They all have little pluses and minuses, but in the end, they are all fairly similar. The one that feels right is the best of the group for each individual shooter.

 

[St.Zu]

Sig 522? I love mine and never have had a problem. It is easy to clean and simple to learn. It has some characteristics of the AR and some of the AK. Might give one of these a look. I got mine for 400.00 + extra mag.
YMMV,
Rich

 

[sunshine5503]

is the colt m16's carry handle removible or not?

 

[spyderdude]

I absolutetly love my M&P15-22. As mentioned before, it operates exactly like the center fire counterpart and is cheap to shoot. I heard good things about the SIG 522 and mixed reviews on the Colt.

 

[Zach S]

I dont care much for the ones you can get for around 5 bills. They feel like toys to me. Proprietary parts and magazines are a turn off for me as well.

I put mine together before the companies came out with the tacticool .22s using the same parts as I did on my other builds, aside from the magazine, bolt, and barrel, of course. Based on a Ciener conversion so magazines and replacement parts are easily obtainable from several companies. Its a more expensive way to go, but I think its worth it.

I have a GSG5 and enjoy it, but I doubt I would if I had an HK94. The difference between the two is night and day, and I feel that same difference between the sub-$500 AR22s and the 5.56 AR15s costing a few hundred more.

This is not a knock against the S&W, I like them a lot. But in every thread like this people drop in knocks against the Colt that are just hearsay.

You know, a while back someone posted a thread about a Colt rimfire that broke at the back of the receiver in the gun store.

I cant find the thread now though.

 

[d2wing]

A few months ago the "Rifleman" had a article comparing all of the tactical .22's. Sorry I may not have it anymore but as I recall, none were tack drivers, the Mossberg was the least accurate.

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

If anyone buys one of the Colt 22s, remember to tighten the bolt speed adjuster screw all the way down. This will eliminate failures to eject using bulk pack ammo. Also do not use Remington ammo. Follow these 2 rules and you will be happy with your rifle.

 

[Quentin]

is the colt m16's carry handle removible or not?

Yes

 

[Quentin]

Quote:
This is not a knock against the S&W, I like them a lot. But in every thread like this people drop in knocks against the Colt that are just hearsay.

...
You know, a while back someone posted a thread about a Colt rimfire that broke at the back of the receiver in the gun store.

I cant find the thread now though.

Sounds like hearsay again!

 

[Zach S]

Not hardly. Not the thread I was talking about, but...

http://www.californiapredatorsclub.com/lofiversion/index.php?t18057.html

 

[sunshine5503]

now im not talking about the special purpose m16 im talking about he nmormal m16? so is it still the same

 

[swheelman]

Have had my new M&p 1522 for 5 days now and couldn't be happier! After approx 600 rounds of a variety of ammo I have had zero load, feed or eject failures. Ammo includes Federal bulk, cci 36 gr cphp, 40 gr cprn, stingers, remington golden, thunderbolt and blazers. I did have two dud rounds though. For a 16" barreled rifle it seems surprisingly accurate.

 

[Robert101]

I just recently purchased a tactical 308 and am too thinking about a 22LR tactical. I'm sort of leaning to the Mossberg becase for $275 it seems like a bargin. My reasons are simply:
1. I've already spent a ton of money on my 308.
2. Fun to shoot 22LR at 4 cents per round to 100 yards.
3. Don't mind lack in accuracy to 100 yards.
4. Mossberg Tac is similar to Plinkster and I'm fine with that quality barrel.
5. Can shoot the 22 indoors as someone mentioned earlier.

I guess spending as little as possible now is my main motivation and Mossberg has been a major manufacturer for a long time. No its not a high end or mid-end quality AR - I know.

 

[berettaprofessor]

I have an M&P 15-22, son has a Colt; I also have a standard lower with a dedicated 22 upper. M&P has been good from the start, most fun gun I own for plinking....pretty accurate too, just as good as a 10/22 from the box, maybe batter. Son's Colt is heavier and FTF's every other round....stovepipes, etc. Lower w/dedicated upper is okay, but heavier than the 15-22 and no more accurate. Enough said, buy the 15-22.

 

[Sky]

I have a GSG-5 in .22 would not recommend it to anyone except a kid with a dad who is handy with tools.

Also have (2) uppers CMMGs in .22.. 16" and a 18"...Never had a problem with the CMMGs. Was shooting them using a regular AR lower but decided on purchasing the Plumcrazy lowers @$119 a piece which came with a different hammer to use with the .22 uppers. The rifles balance better and the lowers are about 40% the weight of a metal lower, so for me it is a good set up. The lowers have been shot a couple of times on other ARs but I just leave them on the .22s.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=610010

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=553109

 

[TonyAngel]

I can't make any comments about the Mossberg. I've never even seen one. I do have experience with the Colts and Smiths. I really don't think that either is appreciably more accurate than the other. I'd suggest that you just list the pros and cons of each and get the one that has the most pros for you.

I got the Smith. My reasons for doing so were that the Smith's magazines are readily available and not expensive. The Smith is made mostly of polymer similar to that of the Glock. It's tough stuff. Although the Colt is made of metal, it isn't any sort of aluminum or any thing like that. From what my research told me, it's made of some sort of pot metal and I felt that the Smith would be more durable in terms of being able to survive drops and knocks. From what I've seen, pot metal is pretty brittle.

A major thing for me was that the Smith also accepts standard AR15 trigger groups. I'm running a Geissele SSA in mine. Totally not necessary, but it does make the shooting experience more enjoyable.

I know that many say that the Smith feels like a toy and prefer the heft of the Colt, but the reason that I got mine was because I wanted to use it for more than just range duty and because it looks cool. The Smith is so light that you'll almost forget that it's slung across your back until you need it.

As for the alleged functional problems posted as they relate to both the Colts and the Smiths, I believe that both have had their problems, although I believe that the Smith has a bit of a better track record.

I've had mine for a while now. I got mine out of the first shipment that my LGS got of these when they were released, so mine doesn't have the threaded barrel. It is a bit picky about ammo, but found that it runs flawlessly on Winchester Expert bulk and any other premium ammo, like Mini Mags.

After everything was said and done, however, if I had it to do again, I'd probably put the money into a CZ or Savage bolt gun, if I was just committed to spending that much money. These days, when I need a handy .22 to take into the woods with me, I usually just grab my Henry lever gun. It's small, compact and no mags to worry about.

The .22 ARs are built to mimic a real AR. What this means to me is that it is bulkier than it needs to be and uncomfortable to carry around, weight notwithstanding.

Still, if you're just dead set on getting an AR in .22, I'd go with the Smith for the above reasons.

Good luck and have fun.

 

[EAJ]

S&W M&P 15-22