Tactical Treatment of Gunshot Wounds-May 26, 2008-Doc Gunn

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Defense Training International, Inc./Pittsburgh Area
Coordinator Ray Schuerger (DTI-PGH)
4211 Steubenville Pike
Pittsburgh PA 15205
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Dear Friends and Fellow Shooters:

This is our 2008 training schedule. All courses will be held at the Forest Grove Sportsmen’s Association, Inc. in Coraopolis, PA

Please include a deposit of $200.00 for each course upon registration. The remainder of the tuition is due at the start of the course. Endorse your checks to "DTI, Inc." and mail them to the address above. As space is limited, please register early to avoid disappointment. We hope that you will mark your calendars and that we will be able to train together. The best way to contact us is via e-mail at [email protected]. USPS correspondence may be directed to the address above. Details about location, equipment, etc., can be obtained by contacting the above.

Ray Schuerger


Tactical Treatment of Gunshot Wounds. Doc Gunn / John Farnam.
Memorial Day Monday, May 26, 2007. Tuition $300.00
A copy of the applicant’s CCW, LEO credentials, or a letter from the Registrant's Chief of Police is required for registration. 300 rounds of jacketed factory ammunition.

Our course is based upon Tactical Medicine principles, but while TacMed is designed for military/police tactical entry team members with specialized medical training, our course is for non-medical personnel who may become involved as primary responders to treat and stabilize victims of gunshot wounds. Originally designed primarily for firearm instructors, home owners/defenders and street police officers, we have also given this course to Federal and Local Law Enforcement Emergency Response Teams and as a Train-the-Trainer program for elements of the United States Marine Corps.
This is a shooting course combined with what you need to do immediately afterward to increase the survivability of gunshot wound victims, including yourself. Important topics include the Effects of Bullets on Human Tissue, Where to Shoot and How to Place Bullets with Surgical Precision. Following Threat Elimination, we teach How to Identify the three, major, life-threatening Injuries and How to Control Hemorrhage which is the major cause of preventable death from gunshot wounds. Accessing Emergency Medical Services and Maintaining an Emergency GSW Response Kit is also covered.
We think Tactical Treatment of Gunshot Wounds is an important skill that should be part of every shooter's armament. (Basic/Intermediate Defensive Hand Gun or similar is a pre-requisite to this course.)

Who is Doc Gunn?

Anthony M. Barrera, M.D., F.A.C.E.P.

Doc Gunn, an actively practicing physician, has over twenty years of practice in Emergency Medicine and is certified by the American Board of Emergency Physicians. He has been a DTI Affiliated Instructor since 1996 and has trained extensively with other prominent national and international instructors, often serving as an Assistant Instructor. He is a NRA Certified Instructor for Pistol, Home Firearm Safety, Personal Protection and Range Safety. He also completed the famed LAPD Handgun Instructor Training School (HITS) under the tutelage of Chief Instructor Lawrence Mudgett. Doc Gunn has taken Tactical Medicine at Gunsite under the Late M-SGT Chris Dwiggins and modified these lessons to pertain to the average police officer or armed citizen who may find him/her-self caught in a gunfight. Ours is a shooting course combined with what a non-medical professional can do to treat a gunshot victim immediately after a shooting.

Willingness is a state of mind. READINESS is a statement of fact!
 
Get a "1st Responder" or "EMT" course under your belt-add the "IV" tag and you will be able to cover lots of emergencies. I keep a bottle of "Crazy Glue" in every bag-better than stitches in most situations. wc
 
That is a great idea. But that is not what this class is about.

TTGSW is primarily a shooting class. The central idea is that when someone is wounded the first order of business is to neutralize the threat. That might mean shooting with the support hand. Or drawing from a strong side holster with the support hand. Or shooting from the ground or another awkward position. Only after the scene is secure is it time to take care of the medical emergencies. Always remember that first responders generally will not enter a scene that is not secure. And given that when someone is under fire it is not convenient to dial 911.

Most deaths due to gunshot wounds happen because of loss of blood, collapsed lung, or an obstructed airway. These are the things that are taught in this class. The idea is to stabilize yourself or someone else while waiting for the first response.
 
Excellent marketing strategy! I'm glad that the Doctor could find a niche to exploit.

I don't want to sound too critical, but I can't leave this one alone...

Now we have "Tactical" Medicine for the lay-person.

I can see where this is good info to have, but, I hope that people who take this class won't think that they're qualified to perform a tracheotomy or reduce a tension pneumothorax on some poor soul who got shot.

About the best you could do in a situation where someone gets shot is to control the bleeding and hope for a speedy response from the EMS.
 
I can see where this is good info to have, but, I hope that people who take this class won't think that they're qualified to perform a tracheotomy or reduce a tension pneumothorax on some poor soul who got shot.

Soldiers are being taught to do these things before they deploy. Not medics, regular soldiers.

Jeff
 
Soldiers do not have to worry about scope of practice issues like civilians do. The worry would be even further mitigated if they receive training and have orders to perform those techniques when necessary.
 
Sounds like a good course. If it is properly tailored to a lay audience then it can really help. People do counterproductive things all the time for their injuries. When an event happens we fall back to our training. As for legal liability - I would hope the course educates about that also.
 
Soldiers do not have to worry about scope of practice issues like civilians do.

I don't think that a civilian who isn't licensed in a medical field has a scope of practice issue either.

Jeff
 
Excellent marketing strategy! I'm glad that the Doctor could find a niche to exploit.

It seems to me that folks who spend a lot of time on shooting ranges (particularly the types of remote ranges we often see in training classes) ought to have some basic knowledge regarding first aid treatment of the types of injuries they may encounter in such environments.

If you spend a lot of time hiking in the wilderness, it makes sense to take a wilderness first aid class. I don't think SOLO is necessarily "exploiting a niche" with its course offerings.

About the best you could do in a situation where someone gets shot is to control the bleeding and hope for a speedy response from the EMS.

From the TTGSW student manual:

...direct tamponade of bleeding wounds is well within the capabilities of lay responders and will be the primary emergency intervention applied while awaiting EMS personnel and equipment.

Among other things, I found the class provided much better information related to dealing with gunshot wounds than the variety of first aid classes I've taken from other providers. Do I think I'm "qualified" to perform advanced medical procedures in the field as a result? Certainly not. Do I think I'm better prepared to deal with certain types of wounds resulting from gunfire after the class? I do - but as with all education, it's a process. This class is one step along a path.
 
Excellent marketing strategy! I'm glad that the Doctor could find a niche to exploit.

I don't want to sound too critical, but I can't leave this one alone...

Now we have "Tactical" Medicine for the lay-person.

I can see where this is good info to have, but, I hope that people who take this class won't think that they're qualified to perform a tracheotomy or reduce a tension pneumothorax on some poor soul who got shot.

About the best you could do in a situation where someone gets shot is to control the bleeding and hope for a speedy response from the EMS.


This class has nothing to do with niche marketing. It is about saving lives.

There are the techniques that are learned in the course:

1. Neutralizing the threat-Knowing where to put the bullets.
2. Taking care of your own (or others innocent's) wounds-employing techniques.

Since the overwhelming percentage of deaths due to gunshot wounds happen because of hemorrhaging, collapsed lung(s), blocked airways, or a combination of the above. It is an advanced shooting course designed for military and law enforcement personnel. While on the surface it might seem to be difficult for a lay person to learn consider that the people for whom the class is designed are ordinary people in rather normal jobs that are different from civilian jobs only because of the high probability of violent encounters. In short, anyone is capable of learning these techniques.

Consider this: The ability to perform CPR on a loved one can be the difference between life and death. But if the problem cannot be remedied by CPR what is the option when the emergnecy help is minutes away? Reducing a tension pneumothorax, as scary as that might sound, is not difficult to learn. The techniques taught in this class are designed to take care of the greatest percentage of fatal events.

Obviously, no one recommends that someone perform a tracheotomy when they have learned how to open a blocked airway. While average folks do not often come into contact with VCA's, learning the mechanics of treating gunshot wounds is a smart thing to do. The materials involved are inexpensive and multiples can be easily stored in a range bag, the automobile, and in the home.
 
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