Taking a piece of lead and brass to school

[JesseL]

I once found a bullet among the boulders on my elementary school playground. Nobody thought it was particularly alarming, but that was 20 years ago.

Interestingly, it was a fairly large (.38 or bigger) heeled lead bullet. Given the history of the area, it wouldn't surprise me if it had been there for 100 years before I found it.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

If its for a project and you need to do it, just ask the principle, and explain to him exactly what you are bringing, and that it is in no way, shape, or form dangerous...The worst he can say is "no."

 

[Geronimo45]

If you have to ask, it's probably illegal.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

When I was 6 years old, I took a handful of .30 Spnfld bullets (just the fired projectile) to first grade for show-and-tell. This was in the South Suburbs of Chicago in the 1970's. The teacher may have not liked guns, but even she knew these were inert hunks of metal. No big deal.

Today, they would likely flip if you brought a plain chunk of lead as it is a toxic metal. When I was teaching middle school ten years ago I had to confiscate little plastic (like GI Joe scale) guns from kids keychains--AND send the kids to get suspended by the principal for having look-alike weapons.
If you have a compelling reason, get permission in writing to bring the bullets (talk up a physics teacher).

 

[BlindJustice]

"As a lifetime member of the National Pea Shooters
Association, I must take a stand and say that
Pea SHooters and ownership of the same have
been a long tradition in the history of this country.
Pea shooters don't hurt people, People hurt people."

Courtesy of NPR

 

[230RN]

In general, and not referring to you, OP, "don't try to finesse the system."

The system is brain dead.

 

[danny]

If a student can be expelled for a drawing of a gun, real ammo (no matter how inert) will definitely get you in trouble.

 

[Nolo]

I know everyone has already said "don't do it" a million and a half times, but it needs to be said that many times. People have said "if it's with a science or art project, it'll be fine, probably". Maryland (where I live) is relatively moderate with their Zero-Tolerance Policy, but they will still catch you for anything and everything. I accidentally had a knife in my pocket once. I am a very good student, got the highest grade in my class on the PSAT and a very high grade on the SAT (and I will be taking it again). People know me. My school is relatively small and in a relatively low crime area. Everyone knows that I wouldn't hurt anyone. But I had a knife. It is amazing how irrational people can get when faced with a crisis or what they think is a crisis. All I had a was a smallish knife and I got suspended for 10 days (the maximum), an expulsion conference, a felony charge and arrest and 25 days in IAEC (Interim Alternative Education Center, a euphemism for the mandated student wastebins with No Child Left Behind). The court decided I wasn't worth prosecuting and let me go with 90 days probation, I never ended up serving all of my 25 days (only 2) in IAEC because of an unfortunate car accident, but I still had the humiliation of being escorted out of school in handcuffs, crippling 10 days unsupported (i.e., they don't give me any of my work) suspension, and lots of bullcrap with the court and school system. And now they think that I am going to shoot up the school.
I know you're not going to do anything, but you asked what would happen, and that is what would happen. Or worse. I know any component of a firearm is an instant 10 days suspension and expulsion conference, no arguing.

 

[XD Fan]

I work in a rural school district where we routinely confiscate knives from students and tell them to pick them up from the principal after school. We all know they are just tools.

 

[Pax Jordana]

I got suspended for 10 days (the maximum), an expulsion conference, a felony charge and arrest and 25 days in IAEC

Here (philly suburbs) as I recall it was a felony charge and, locally, a year's suspension - suspension like get arrested again for being found on school grounds.

Ah well, we band kids ran amok anyway. Anyone who's ever been hit with a marching snare drum stick can attest that weapons are, in fact, brought daily into our schools!

To the OP: I would recommend not doing it. If you have a good reason, ask in advance - THR is not your school administration (but boy what a school we'd have!)

 

[fletcher]

A friend of mine received in-school detention for 5 days for possessing a .50BMG case with a hole drilled in the side. This was back in middle school.

The assistant principal called a "firearms expert", who said that "with a few slight modifications, it could be deadly."

Don't take the chance.

 

[chris in va]

Remember the kid that got suspended for DRAWING a 'gun' on a piece of paper?

 

[Zoogster]

Maryland (where I live) is relatively moderate with their Zero-Tolerance Policy

You cannot be moderate with a zero tolerance policy. That is the problem with laws and restrictions, people born into them believe they are the norm and things in either direction are a change from what is normal, either less or more restrictive than normal.

Zero tolerance is NOT normal. There is a difference between an action figure with a miniature gun and a life size toy gun. There is a difference between a toy gun and a real gun.
There is a difference between a plastic disposable knife to eat lunch and a metal knife. There is a difference between a swiss army knife and a sword.

The zero tolerance drug policies make about as much sense.
There is a difference between an inhaler a child needs and a prescription pain killer. There is a difference between an aspirin and some crack.

People need to wake up and stop hiding behind zero tolerance policies instead of actualy making decisions and using discretion and judgement. It is cowardly.

If our law had zero tolerance policies we would have no rights in society. Imagine a speeding ticket taking away your license and throwing you in jail permanently. Zero tolerance for irresponsible driving.

How about a zero tolerance for violent offenders? School yard fight? Throw them in jail toss away the key.

Zero tolerance is zero common sense.

 

[foob]

I work in a rural school district where we routinely confiscate knives from students and tell them to pick them up from the principal after school. We all know they are just tools.

Then why confiscate them at all? There's no deterrence, they are going to continue bringing it to school and keeping them concealed.

 

[mike101]

"The zero tolerance drug policies make about as much sense."

When she was in 3rd or 4th grade, my daughter was almost suspended for bringing nasal mist to school. She had a cold. The teacher hauled her to the prinicipal's office. The principal called in the school nurse, who called my wife to raise hell. The nurse got a little hell right back from my wife, and my daughter ("A" student, never in trouble for anything) was not suspended. I can't even imagine what would have happened if it had been a bullet that she brought to school. This is NJ.

But to answer your question, you would, at the very least be suspended. Probably worse.

 

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

I brought a spent 30-06 casing and a spent 5.56 casing ito show my buddies on my world history class (10th Grade) the difference between the two, why there was a change, and how the tactics changed for infantry as a result. Nothing happened to me.

The day before my WWII combat veteran Grandfather had flown out from Arizona (I'm in California) and showed up at my family's home and gave me an M1 Garand. I spent Memorial Day (day after he arrived) playing hookie with my Grandfather at the range firing off the M1, and I'll never forget it.

 

[gaudio5]

they have kicked god out of school. you with a bullet is next lol

 

[buck00]

Okay people. I want to make this as clear as possible. I will NOT take these into school. I also never said i would. So people stop telling me not to.

Don't do it. You need to be told that again just for asking the question you asked.

You can be arrested, expelled and sued just for drawing a picture of a gun in a school in this day and age.

 

[Avenger29]

Guys, do ya'll remember the case a couple of months ago where several 5th graders were suspended for having little plastic army men on their graduation caps?

Don't take any physical object that even goes near guns to school.

 

[Notch]

Quote:
Why would you even bother to do that? Do not do that.

Did you not see "This is a hypothetical situation" It was the first thing in the damn thread. I never said i would do this.

First off son, show a little respect, or at the least, try not to show disrepect. Second off, sorry but the fact that someone has to post a question like this is enough reason to worry that they might actualy do it. When ya get some more years in your britches, you will read between the lines too....

 

[fletcher]

Did you not see "This is a hypothetical situation" It was the first thing in the damn thread. I never said i would do this

And the response to your hypothetical question is "don't take it to school, as you will be expelled/arrested/executed/whathaveyou". No need to get snappy at people giving reponses.

 

[Horsesense]

Why were you going to take a bullet to school? This reminds me of something that happened to one of Bill Cosby's friends.

Bill and his young ne’r do well classmates were in shop class one day. Weird Harold has brought a bullet to school with him and one of the brighter boys in class said "you know, if you put a bullet in the furnace, it will blow up". That day was quiet as all the class waited for the teacher’s little surprise. A few minutes into class, BANG, and the silence was suddenly punctuated with sniggers from all of the classmates. But the teacher was no slouch and knew how to find the culprit.

“I’m not going to try to find out who put a bullet in the furnace because I know that guy must have a pretty bad life already.” He said to no student in particular, “I mean that kid’s mom must be an awful mother to raise a son like that.”

The whispers started to fly, “psst..Harold, the guy is talking bout your mother. You gonn’a let him talk about your mother like that?”

The teacher persists, “Yea, the mother of the young man who would put a bullet in the furnace must be pretty low…”

Finally the kid stands up in a rage, "I didn’t put that bullet in the furnace so stop talking about my mother!”

 

[Joe Demko]

I'm one of only a few teachers at this board...or one of the few who last anyway. Couple-three things:
1. I stand in awe of those of you who have such a sweeping knowledge of American schools that you are able to say what would happen in every one of them. My hat is off to you.
2. There are thousands of schools and millions of students and teachers in the US. You are willing to make generalizations about all of them based on unusual situations that get highly publicized. Remember that the next time somebody uses a mass-murdering whackjob to criticize the entire gun owning community.
3. Don't take them to school unless it is part and parcel of something directly academic. How old are you? Too old for your school to still include show-and-tell, I expect. I also expect you know how your particular school would handle it if you did bring them. What you really wanted to accomplish in this thread was to push an easily pushed hot button and generate a lot of emotional, over-the-top responses.

 

[RoadkingLarry]

Drill a hole in the top of it and stick an eye screw into it and call it a fishing weight.

Seriously though, the real issue is not whether he should or should not take such an item to school. The issue is the potential for an insane response to an inert lump of metal that so many here seem to be afraid of. Maybe we as common sense people and voters and parents need to adopt a zero tolerance policy towards idiotic zero tolerance policies adopted by the pople who run our taxpayer funded public schools. Replace zero tolerance policies with common sense policies.

 

[esmith]

First off son, show a little respect, or at the least, try not to show disrepect. Second off, sorry but the fact that someone has to post a question like this is enough reason to worry that they might actualy do it. When ya get some more years in your britches, you will read between the lines too....

Don't first off son me buddy. I think the reason everyone had a sneaking suspicion that i would do such as this is because i used myself for the example. This is why i said "This is a hypothetical situation" at the beginning of the thread.

And the response to your hypothetical question is "don't take it to school, as you will be expelled/arrested/executed/whathaveyou". No need to get snappy at people giving reponses.

No the responses were "oooooo don't do it" and "why would you do that?" I had never said i would. Don't base things off assumptions.