Taurus joins in on "Smart Gun" technology consortium...

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Not sure who to send this link to. I think this information should be made available on the website.

Many of us, certainly me, will quit buying Taurus prodicts based on this alliance.

David Walter

Richland, WA 99352



http://www.taurususa.com/whatsnew/pr1103.cfm


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

CONTACT:
Simon Bloom e-mail: [email protected]
Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc.
800-327-3776
FAX Number 305-623-7506
www.taurususa.com

AUTHORIZED USER FIREARM PARTNERSHIP

Miami, Florida, 25 November, 2003

In a startling announcement today, Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc, stated they have formed a trilateral partnership to fast track the revolutionary development of firearms that electronically recognize pre-authorized individual users.

The partnership has been formed to address the long sought response to the quest for a firearm that will instantly and reliably recognize authorized operators of the equipment. The new handgun will use the patented Dynamic Grip Recognition biometry authorizing technology owned by the New Jersey Institute of Technology. This combined with the patented handgun Electronic Firing System owned by Metal Storm, Ltd. will be developed into a total handgun package by Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc.

The new handgun will incorporate the Metal Storm O’Dwyer VLe Technology in a platform to be built and integrated by Taurus with the NJIT proven Dynamic Grip Recognition biometry. Recognizing the specific grip exerted by various individuals, the NJIT system will allow each firearm to be programmed so that pre-authorized users will be able to instantly operate the firearm.

The O’Dwyer VLe system is a completely new and unique approach to firing projectiles. Entirely electronic, the system utilizes precharged barrels holding multiple projectiles that are fired by electronic ignition.

Taurus will provide the platform that integrates the NJIT and Metal Storm technologies into a firearm that is a pistol using on board electronics to recognize the operator and to fire the projectile while using a minimum of moving parts.


“Having the opportunity to partner Taurus firearms advanced engineering with the New Jersey Institute of Technology and Metal Storm, Ltd, presents the firearms world with a combined wealth of forward seeing science that will likely revolutionize ballistics, solid state technology and specific user identification,†said Robert G. Morrison, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc. Each partner has individually developed methodology that combined will provide an extraordinary shooting system that will forever change the course of firearms technology both in scope and flexibility.â€

Recognizing the growing trend in some states mandating only the sale of user identifying handguns Taurus is striving to make firearms that will be allowed for purchase in these areas. Even so, Taurus will continue to produce its regular line of mechanically operated and secured firearms for the foreseeable future.

In addition, Taurus will expand its efforts in the military, police and homeland security markets with this revolutionary firearms technology.

Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc. is a Florida Corporation that imports and distributes firearms manufactured by Forjas Taurus, in Brazil, as well as manufacturing firearms in their Miami facility. Taurus has led the industry in both technical innovation and firearms safety and security. In the area of innovation, Taurus was dominant with the introduction of forged Total Titanium handguns. Taurus introduced the Taurus Security System in 1996, the first integral locking device on production handguns.

Metal Storm, Ltd., develops electronically fired weaponry suitable for use by military and police world wide.

The New Jersey Institute of Technology is a world leader in the development of biometric devices and technology.

For more information on Metal Storm, visit www.metalstorm.com.

For more information on NJIT, visit www.njit.edu.
[email protected]
 
In addition, Taurus will expand its efforts in the military, police and homeland security markets with this revolutionary firearms technology.
Y'know, I think we ought to pass a law that no smart guns be allowed on the civilian market until the police and military have at least 75% of their people using that exact technology.

After all, if this new technology is so wonderful, and will make those who use it so much safer, our men in uniform really deserve to have it first.

pax
 
Y'know, I think we ought to pass a law that no smart guns be allowed on the civilian market until the police and military have at least 75% of their people using that exact technology.

Right on Brother!!
 
Once again, I feel we need some high profile person like Ted Nugent to demonstrate for the media how easy it is to take a battery and two wires and bypass ANY electronic keying system. That ought to make several companies and politicians wet their pants.
 
-Ha ha ha!
....Who cares? Nobody has had any interest in metal storm guns: first they were "envisioned" as anti-satellite weapons, then as shipboard anti-aircraft weapons, then as arrayed antipersonnel weapons, and then as individual firearms. So this company has gone from trying to sell a high-flying space-based concept to militaries and governments, and market-by-market has slipped down to handgun applications--because nobody wants it. The military wants to shoot satellites and missiles with X-ray lasers, and the concept is lousy for replacing any conventional firearm or cannon, simply for the problems with reloading.
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-And the only advantage a metal-storm gun has is the ability to (momentarily) operate at fantastic full-auto rates--except that,,, um,,,,, -full-auto guns are already among the most heavily restricted in the US anyway. Since you can't even make new full-auto guns and sell them civilian, that plan is DOA already. So who would buy them, and why?
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The press release says it all: "Metal Storm, Ltd., develops electronically fired weaponry suitable for use by military and police world wide.", --note that it doesn't say they've ever sold any of it.
Two words:
"Money Pit".
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Did anyone listen to Bob Morrison (pres of Taurus) on Guntalk this weekend? They discussed this, he really had to backpeddle when some callers let him know they didn't appreciate his companies efforts.

One caller said he was in effect enabling this nonsense legislation like in NJ and giving these "smart gun only" laws legs by trying to develop these turds, and his only retort was "well, someone is going to make the guns, so we're going to try to make a good one". Nice deflection, idiot.

I just bought a Taurus handgun, and I'm mad at myself for doing so. No more, never again, and I'll send a copy of every receipt for every OTHER gun I buy straight to Taurus' HQ to drive my point home.
 
I wouldn't worry about it too much. They could barely make normal guns that work let alone try to make an electronic one. Taurus would be the last manufactuerer that I would rely on if I had to carry a gun and at that point I would opt for a sling shot.

Obviously I'm not a fan of Taurus and even more so after reading this.
 
I will start calling NJ gunshops this morning and letting them all know that I'll be boycotting Taurus and any shop that doesn't support my efforts. I'll start with the shop where I've spent the most money.
CeasefireNJ is all overjoyed about this and I'm not. Taurus has passed the point of no return in my little mind.
 
This is pretty old news actually. I posted on this awhile ago, and I'm not sure what the "news" is now. Maybe thay made some kind of technological leap or something. The NJIT, Taurus alliance has been in full swing for some time now.

Anyway, Taurus is a sellout company. They are hoping that if this works, the only guns the surfs in NJ will be able to buy are these so-called smart-guns. All others will immediately be illegal to sell. It is a business decision pure and simple, but gun buyers have it within their power to make it a VERY bad decision for them.
 
Does anyone know of any U.S. LEO agency or department that carries Taurus as a standard duty sidearm?

Thought so.

They obviously think that this will be a shortcut to getting major LEO contracts if they can beat others to the market with the first commercially sucessful smartgun.

Problem is, most LEO's will reject smartguns untill they prove reliable enough to offset the officer risk of being killed with his own snatched sidearm.

When forced to look at the issue seriously, LEO's will realize what if the officer has to shoot left handed due to a barricade or wounds, and the "magic ring" is on the right hand? If it's a proximity RF badge on the belt or wrist, is a bad guy wrestling with a cop for his gun still close enough for it to be active? Fingerprint readers (puh-lease) that can read through blood, water, blood, sweat, or gloves?

AFAIK, Taurus's bread and butter is the civilian market. They should have looked at S&W as an example before alienating us.
 
I'm with you pax!

After reading this, I'm not going to buy ANY taurus products.
 
address

I can't find an email address for Taurus, but here is their U.S. snail mail address:

Taurus International Mfg., Inc. 16175 N. W. 49th Ave.
Miami, FL 33014

I will write to them and them that:

I have had a Taurus .357 for over a decade, and a Ranging Bull for over two years. I *WAS* a vocal supporter of their company, BUT NO MORE. I will now tell every gun owner and potential gun owner I know to avoid their products like the plague.

I encourage all to whip off a five minute, one paragraph letter to them by using your favorite wordprocessor; then, grab an envelope, scribble the above address, and stamp it along with your holiday cards.

If you prefer to call, their toll-free number is: 800-327-3776.

Boltaction
 
Funny thing about the "Smart-Gun" legislation in NJ is that LEOs are going to be exempt. Gee, I wonder why THAT is???
 
While I'm pissed at Taurus, I must say the two finest pistols in my collection for reliability are both Taurus guns.

They make a fine revolver, and my 945 is rock solid. Too bad.
 
When talk of boycotting a Firearms maker I always think of one thing:

You're doing the work of the gun grabbers, with them not having to get off their butts.

Right them, call them, express to them. But if you want to run them out of business, who are you really "helping"?

JMHO
 
Sorry Pax, but I actually SUPPORT our troops and don't want to see them dead!!!

I can only imagine what a Swearing, Spittin' Marine would say about the smart guns..
 
My final post on the topic anywhere in cyberspace is the following:
I called maybe half of the gun shops in New Jersey yesterday to intelligently discuss the issue. Not one was even remotely interested and most were annoyed. I ended my conversation with one where I've spent maybe $10,000 at over the years and requested a refund on the deposit of my outstanding order.
I replicated the exact same call pattern to the same number of shops in Pennsylvania. Every single one of them was interested, concerned, outraged and sympathetic. A few took the time to discuss their relationship with Taurus and why they can't completely boycott them, but that they certainly won't be actively marketing their products. That's good enough for me and through the process I've identified the shop in PA who will get my dollars once I move there.
My conclusion is that if the New Jersey shop owners (to include the local NRA rep) don't care then we're not even a blip on the radar screen of the rank and file citizen. This is what 35 years of shovel fed misinformation has created. I guess that New Jersey can continue to be the NRA's example of what could happen. Personally, I think that the NRA would do better to put forth a long-term plan in New Jersey because our situation does no one any good, but that might make sense so that's possibly not an option. I'm going to continue my NRA membership just on the possibility that I'm wrong.
So, to conclude, the only measure of effectiveness, I think, is to get the word out to every single gun owner in the United States and then each can make up his or her own mind.
 
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