Taurus MOD85 ULTRA LITE TRIGGER PULL HELP

[2dswamp]

Need some help...bought the wife a TAURUS 85 Ultra Lite for concealed carry.

Problem is she finds the DA only trigger pull to heavy. What's the fix?

New WOLFF spring? Is the model 85 trigger pull adjustable?

Much appreciate any help!

 

[MCgunner]

Jeez, my 85UL is the lightest, smoothest revolver DA I've ever owned. Includes some Smiths and Rugers. Short of maybe trying a Ruger LCR, you could try a Wolff spring kit in it. Be aware that it could give misfires and if such happens, you'll need to switch back to the springs it came with.

Some women just don't have the finger/hand strength for DA shooting. She might do better with something like a LCP or G26, maybe. She could always fire it SA if DA just doesn't work for her.

The Wolff spring kits are cheap, though, probably should try that first.

 

[Old Fuff]

It's not hard to get a trigger pull your wife will love. The only problem, and a minor one, is that it may not reliably fire cartridges any more.

You can smooth the pull by dry firing, but get good snap-caps before you do or you can mash the firing pin spring - which isn't good. Dry firing will burinsh the internal lockwork where the parts rub together, and is a better idea then polishing them. Won't void the warantee either.

Lighter springs = an easier trigger pull, but at the expense of total reliability. You can use a lighter trigger return spring, but you may then get a condition where the trigger doesn't go fully forward - and the gun locks up.

The dry firing and other excercises will increase finger/hand strength, and that's where the real issue is. A mechanical solution has some obvious drawbacks.

 

[2dswamp]

Thanks for the advice guys...I'll try snap caps and dry firing first. Then Wolff spring kit and if that doesn't work...she'll just have to start doing finger-tip push ups!

 

[Mark F]

I put a Wolff spring kit in my Model 85 about a year ago, and I haven't had any problems with with it. I've shot approx. 2000 rounds in it. The DA pull is about 10 pounds, and the SA pull is roughly 4.5 pounds.

 

[rcmodel]

Taurus, and even S&W lately, is using far stronger springs then needed for total reliability.

I think the WOlff spring kit will help a bunch without causing problems.

A good high film strength grease like GunSlick on the high friction points in the lockwork will help a lot too.

rc

 

[2dswamp]

Anyone know what the trigger pull is set to from the factory?

Her 85 is DA only..

 

[weregunner]

If you change the springs out please do the following afterward.

Run at least 200 rounds of ammo through the gun to insure for firing reliability.
It might take more than 200 rounds to check the gun out.

Try a varied bunch of ammo as well. Some brands of ammo will fire each and every time and others will not.

Stiff primers, soft primers, and the new led free primers make reliability a crap shoot at times. With the lighter springs harder primers or lead free ones need a healthy whack to insure the primer goes off.

There are those who like here have made the changes by putting lighter springs in and have had success.

There are those who have and not had the success that others have seen.

While I did not change the springs in my older Taurus 85CH I did change them in a Taurus snub revolver chambered for .327 Federal. It did not work.
Duds were more than 1 out of 6 per cylinder. I had to put the original springs put back in.

 

[Four Knives]

In my experience, it depends on the weight of mainspring you put in. YMMV

IIRC, I used the lightest in the 3pack spring kit in my Taurus 605 and it was 'click' central. Trigger felt darn nice in DA, but a 30% failure rate was unacceptable.

Changed out the spring to the middle one in the Taurus pack, and it's been flawless.

Trigger return spring is a boar to put back in and only marginally helps, IMHO so leave that one stock.

Another thing I like to do w/all my revos is to give them a good thorough cleaning, and then lube with something slickery like Weaponshield or MPro 7 Lube or even CLP.

Then I dry fire the pee out of them. Literally doing 50 rounds a session over the next few days, and hashmarking every 50 until I've hit 1,000 dryfires.

I don't use snapcaps in my Taurii, as they're lifetime warrantied and I am not concerned about mashing any springs. Again, YMMV, so if you sleep better at night by using snapcaps, then I recommend them.

Do a GOOD detail clean and lube and 1,000 dryfires and change the spring out as a 2nd step if your wife still has issue. *Remember the power of the 'placebo effect' and make sure you tell her you found some good interwebz voodoo that you did to the gun that will make it just perfect - I'll wager she comes out happy.

Good luck.

 

[bdb benzino]

I picked up a used Taurus 605 for the wife, and whoever had it before me had put a trigger and action job into it. It was very smooth an locked up tight, but then I found out why they sold it.... light primer stikes 1 out of 10 rounds. I took it to my smithy that sold it to me, he put a stock spring in at no charge. Now it is slightly stiffer but still 100% reliable and smooth from the previous work done to it. The moral is that there is a fine line between comfort and reliability and you have to comprimise to get both reliably.

 

[MCgunner]

My revolvers must go bang every time. There is no acceptable compromise to that. All my guns have decent triggers, but the 85 is the best of the bunch. I never measured it to give you a number, though.

I've found spring kits can really help Ruger revolvers. They tend to over do it with everything. I've not messed with my Tauri, though.

 

[Mark F]

I have had absolutely no problems with my spring-job in my Model 85UL. After several thousand rounds in 5 brands of ammo... not a single mis-fire. The DA pull is about 10 pounds. If someone can't manage that, then maybe a rock would be a better choice for a weapon.

 

[Glockman17366]

I've had a Taurus Ultra-Lite (with the aluminum frame/titanim cylinder and barrel shroud) for over ten years. It served me well as a carry gun.
But when I first got it, there was a real problem with light strikes. Although it was corrected by the factory and has been fine ever since, I do attribute the problem to Taurus building a revolver with a lighter trigger for women. No proof of that, but there was a push for women's self defense back then (IIRC).
Anyway, I suggest you lady friend build up a little muscle in her fingers rather then lighten the trigger...especially in a revolver to be used for self defense.

 

[Mark F]

I have a Taurus 85UL and a Ruger LCR. They both have their strong points and both are super reliable. My only complaint about the LCR is it's DAO. I Like to SA my revolvers often, and my Model85UL is SA/DA. There's just something about pulling the hammer back that says "I'm gonna shoot".

 

[hardluk1]

I to have a older model 85 in SS and i carriedit for 16 + years and now the wife shoots it and i did a wolf spring kit about a year ago useing the middle springs, and have not had any problems at all. Maybe 800 rounds through it with the lite springs. Idid a bit of polishing on the trigger and sear and don't know if that helped or not. Single action pull is scarry lite but DA is just plan nice. Best trigger in a small gun i have felt.

 

[hd5]

I should have found this thread before I bought my wife a 85U. She has to use both index fingers to pull the trigger. And by the time she gets the trigger pulled she is off target. I recommended finger exercises but she just kind of looked at me, like I was stupid.
I don't want to push my luck with the gun thing, she finally got her CCW after me begging her for three years.


I was getting ready to order the Wolff kit from Midway, but now I don't know.
Has anyone had more experience with them since this thread started?
btw I know this thread is real old