Taurus PT 111 Mil Pro Triggers

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Hey folks... I've got a Taurus Mil Pro with a very heavy trigger. Does anyone know how I can get a trigger job or get a better spring?

Its got a lot of creep, which is fine... and its smooth, which is good. But the trigger pull is just too heavy for me to shoot this thing very accurately. I get lots of flyers. It takes a lot of concentration to keep from dipping the barrel when I shoot this thing... a LOT more than any other pistol I've dealt with. The combination of being extremely small and a heavy trigger pull is really starting to frustrate me. I love this gun in every other way, but I just cant shoot it well. If I can't figure something out, I'm going to have to sell it.
 
if you use the pad of your finger, it helps a lot. I was playing around with mine in front of the mirror the other day and noticed that the gun doesn't nose dive as much if you put your pinky under the pinky rest. I'm going to try it out at the range next time I go. If you go first, try it and let me know how it works out for you. Otherwise, the trigger gets better with use. I don't try to stage the trigger, I just press with a steady pressure and pull thru the trigger. I'm not much of a precision shooter, I'm more of a point shooter and I'm looking for just the right grip :)
 
Hmmm interesting. I definitely have tried all sorts of techniques to try to master my PT-111. I do my best shooting with the my fingertip on the trigger. I'll definitely try your "pinky under the grip" idea.

Does anyone know about any gunsmiths or springs or other parts that can help tame this beast?
 
Here's some info I found on www.thefirearmsforum.com... I'm still looking for more stuff on striker springs. Please help!

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"I recently completed a trigger job on a PT111 Millennium. Never again.

The major problem is the machining marks left in the firing pin tunnel. Got those smoothed down. There are two springs, one drives the striker/firing pin forward, and one retracts the firing pin below the breech face allowing the gun to feed upward from the magazine during cycling. The factory FP retracting spring is a flimsy affair and with the least amount of set or deformation it will allow the striker spring to overpower it which results in failures to feed upward since the FP now protrudes slightly from the breech face. The retracting spring also has to push the FP rearward just enough for the cheesy little connector to catch it, which allows for repeated trigger pulls without racking the slide (that particular contraption by the way, is one of the most poorly designed mechanisms since the S&W 61).

Ended up making a new reduced-power striker spring and an increased-power retracting spring. DA pull levelled out at about 8 pounds with only a little grit.


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Here's another post from www.thefirearmsforum.com:
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OK. On this particular gun (PT111 9mm), field stripping was almost impossible. Got the slide assembly away from the frame, but the barrel would NOT come out of the slide. The screw that holds the front sight on had not been trimmed correctly at the factory and was preventing the barrel being removed. Problem #1 fixed.

The Millenniums are DAO, but somewhat unique in that the trigger engages the striker every time you pull the trigger and is not dependent upon rearward movement of the slide to engage the bearing surface. On its face, this is a good thing until you look at how they went about it. There is a coverplate on the underside of the slide held by a screw. Underneath is a small, thin lever and an absolutely microscopic coil spring. Without a doubt, the cheesiest setup I've seen since the good ole RG days. If you don't ABSOLUTELY have to take this down for repair, don't mess with it. I wish I hadn't.

On to the trigger pull. The only way to lighten the trigger is to alter the striker spring. The design would indicate that resting length of the spring is crucial to reliable ignition, so coils must not be clipped from the spring. There is no commercially-available spring kit for this pistol, so I set about figuring what diameter spring stock would be best. The problem is that there is also a firing pin retracting spring, and the factory striker spring already has just the minimum force needed to overcome the retracting spring for reliable ignition. Scratch lightening the trigger pull.

I figured I would just have to smooth the pull out and be happy with that. The trigger pull on these guns stack horribly toward the end of pull (another spring function - gotta live with it) but are rough as cobs. Examination of the striker tunnel in the slide showed very rough machine marks as if it were never polished at all. Polished as much as I could without creating excessive play for the striker, and it still is rough as a cob.

So... almost six hours of bench work (with several interruptions) with a net result of.... zero. If anyone is thinking about getting one of these guns, do yourself a favor and buy something - anything - else.
 
It's not a target gun; it's pretty obvious that wasn't the intent when they designed it. It can be shot well, but it's certainly not designed for anything more than a sturdy, effective defense tool at close range - minute of bad guy, as they say.

There's not much, if anything, you can do. The 3rd series (the new Millennium Pros with the straight8 sights and SA/DA triggers) have significantly better triggers, and if you like the gun enough to want a better trigger, trading it in for the newer version is your best option.
 
My MilPro IS 3rd Gen... and the trigger pull is long and heavvvvvvy
 
If you have a long heavy double action pull then you do not have a 3rd gen :confused:

My wife has the 2 gen PT111 with the double action only pull and she doesn't have any trouble shooting it straight a right on point of aim. She goes through 4-500 rounds every range trip and never said anything about the trigger being to heavy or being hard to keep on target. She has only been shooting for less then a year now too

The trigger does seen a lot lighter now after 4000 rounds or so. I would say it was about a 12 when we first got it and it feels more like an 8 now
 
:what::what:i have the 3rd gen pt111 and the trigger is just great. love the gun. saw another used today at a super price and almost bought ti just cause it feels so good in my hand. :what:
 
Hi.. original poster here. It's been a couple years now and I've got to say that my trigger has smoothed out great with a bit of use. I actually like the trigger better than any other polymer guns I've tried. Across the board I'm very happy with the PT-111 Mil Pro after about 3,000 rounds in 3 years.

I hope this saves some other Mil Pro people some trouble.
 
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