Taurus "Raging Bee"

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  1. Offfhand

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    Attached is a photo of .218 Bee case fired in my Taurus "Raging Bee" revolver compared to unfired round. Obviously, the gun has grossly bad chambers and I'm wondering how it could have gotten by final inspection and test firing. Is this typical Taurus quality?
     

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  2. pikid89

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    well now you have fireformed brass for the .218 BeeTI (TaurusImproved) lol
     
  3. Taurus 617 CCW

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    It seems fairly typical of their Q.C. as of late. They have a lifetime warranty on their guns as a catch-all for the guns that make it past Q.C. Sorry to hear that you got a lemmon.
     
  4. CraigC
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    The important thing is, how does it shoot?


    Some folks obviously don't know what a "lemon" is. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Sam1911

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    I think it would be perfectly reasonable to be concerned if your revolver shows signs of being VISIBLY out of spec. How it shoots is important, but if you want to reload your brass (and I'm guessing by the cartridge here, one would), then whether it conforms to the accepted dimensional standards for the cartridge is important.

    Really? The definition seems to fit, i.e.: a product with serious, undisclosed problems.

    Here are a few definitions I found on line:
    Sometimes there is the implication that these defects must prove to be irreparable, thus requiring total product replacement to be rectified, but that doesn't appear to be a necessary condition.

    Of course, this revolver is NOT an oval yellow fruit with a high citric acid content, so if that's what you were picturing then, no, it isn't a lemon. :rolleyes:
     
  6. MMCSRET

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    Did you buy the revolver new or used. I would be in contact with Taurus immediately. One other question; does this happen in all chambers??? I saw a new Taurus revolver chambered for 17 HRM that had one chamber that was cut too deep, all the others were OK. Contact Taurus!!!!!!!!
     
  7. SharpsDressedMan

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    I had one and could only load lower end loads, not up to Bee potential, bcause it set back the cases like the earlier .22 Jet S&W did (jamming the cylinder). Seeing as I also had a Bee rifle, I got rid of the Taurus, as I did not want to be loading two different level loads, with the revolver always being under loaded and of no use. The Taurus Bee seemed like a good idea, but turned out not be practical.
     
  8. CraigC
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    Exactly. It's only a lemon if it can't be fixed. A Taurus with improperly cut chambers is no more a lemon than a Ruger with a broken rear sight or a S&W with a missing screw. The Bearcat I got last year was a lemon. Ruger could not repair it so it was destroyed and replaced with a new one. This sixgun has not yet been returned to the factory so how can it be a lemon?
     
  9. The Lone Haranguer

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    Is it possible this is a purposeful design feature? Note the rounded appearance of the shoulder. Maybe the case is designed to expand into it and prevent the rearward thrust that plagues bottlenecked cartridges in revolvers. One thing is certain, you won't get many reloadings out of those cases.
     
  10. HelterSkelter

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    thats taurus for you lol.

    stop knocking taurus, they make good guns, goshhhhh.

    also if you want to get super technical and say it's only a lemon if it can't be repaired then there are no lemons, everything could be repaired if you put enough into it. the gun's a lemon, if that's how the gun is supposed to be then it is a foolish design.
     
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  11. MMCSRET

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    The gun has not failed!!!!!!!! The gun is doing exactly what the "HUMAN" set it up to do. Blame Taurus workmanship, but the gun just lays there and does nothing until a human (sometimes SUB) lays hand to it. I reiterate, talk to Taurus!!!!!!!
     
  12. Offfhand

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    Posted above by The Lone Harangeur:

    "Is it possible this is a purposeful design feature? Note the rounded appearance of the shoulder. Maybe the case is designed to expand into it and prevent the rearward thrust that plagues bottlenecked cartridges in revolvers. One thing is certain, you won't get many reloadings out of those cases."

    Mr. Haranguer, the same thought occured to me so I rechecked all the paperwork that came with the gun. But there is no mention of the chambers being "on purpose" as they are. You're certainly right about limited case life, and all eight chambers are identical. As for accuracy, it is noway near as good as my "Raging Hornet."
     
  13. SharpsDressedMan

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    Give Taurus tech service a call. Asking on the forum is not going to get the the final answer.
     
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