Tavor in Gaza

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Seen it carried by soldiers on the street in Israel, but was not aware of its deployment in battle 'til now.

Wish I could have one.
 

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OMG A TAVOR!!!11!!1!oneoneone11exclamationpoint1!

It's just another 5.56mm bullpup using an AR18 operating system.
 
It's just another 5.56mm bullpup using an AR18 operating system.

Don't piddle on our parade!

And good luck with these remaining legal long enough to come out...... Not to mention if a mfg. says 2010 you can expect it in 2016.
 
Yeah they have the best gear, they spend more of their GDP on their defense force than any other nation in the world. I thought I saw a Tavor for sale on some Canadian site. I'll have to check on that.
 
Okay I think I was wrong about the Canada thing. Did anyone else see that or am I just eating too much lead fragment contaminated meat?
 
It's just another 5.56mm bullpup using an AR18 operating system.

I think it's actually based on the AK, but I'm not entirely sure. In any event, unlike the AR18, it uses a long stroke piston.
 
Yeah they have the best gear, they spend more of their GDP on their defense force than any other nation in the world. I thought I saw a Tavor for sale on some Canadian site. I'll have to check on that.

Nope, not even close. The North Koreans spend 31% of their GDP on the military, more than 4 times what Israel spends.
 
One question remains though: What with the funny painter's/baker's "hat" things they wear? Are they too cool and bohemian for regular helmet covers?
 
I think it's actually based on the AK, but I'm not entirely sure. In any event, unlike the AR18, it uses a long stroke piston.

You're right, it's a long stroke system mated with an ar18 7-lug bolt. The recoil spring assembly seems to be copied from the G36, which could have been copied from elsewhere, I am not certain. I know the real ar18 had two rods and two springs but designs today like the g36 and tavor use one spring and rod, separate from each other. Money saving feature? :D

Oh BTW, the pics posted in the first post. You know what's odd? The Tavor's are the old models.....

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compared to the Tavor-2
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The rifle being aimed by the soldier looks like a tavor 2...
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Okay I think I was wrong about the Canada thing.

Nope. They're legally imported to Canada -- there was a thread here or on TFL where an owner or gun shopper had pics of one of the Canadian export models, if I'm not mistaken.

One question remains though: What with the funny painter's/baker's "hat" things they wear? Are they too cool and bohemian for regular helmet covers?

The IDF concluded at some point that even with a regular camouflage cover, the profile and shape of a helmet was easy for the eye to pick out, so they developed those floppy mesh covers to break up the outline of the helmet.

Seems like it's not a bad idea, but I don't think it would last two minutes in the woods at someplace like Ft Benning or Ft Stewart here in the US.
 
Odd that they would adopt that kind of camouflage headgear and still wear olive drab uniforms.
 
I want one :D Wow.. why does a country with stricter gun laws like canada have access to these, but us hot blooded free yankees cannot get any more than a picture of one? :banghead:

The gun is supposedly much ligher, less jam prone and with greater accuracy than an AR15. I wonder what caliber of bullet they use? I think it is .308? I watched a video of the navy seal guy trying these out at an IDF training camp. The navy seal shooter was shocked at the accuracy and power of this gun.
 
I want one Wow.. why does a country with stricter gun laws like canada have access to these, but us hot blooded free yankees cannot get any more than a picture of one?

...Ummm... because we are not free?

The gun is supposedly much ligher, less jam prone and with greater accuracy than an AR15. I wonder what caliber of bullet they use? I think it is .308?

Appears to be a STANAG 5.56 magazine poking out the back like that.
 
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One question remains though: What with the funny painter's/baker's "hat" things they wear? Are they too cool and bohemian for regular helmet covers?

"The IDF concluded at some point that even with a regular camouflage cover, the profile and shape of a helmet was easy for the eye to pick out, so they developed those floppy mesh covers to break up the outline of the helmet."


It's called a MITZNEFET, which translates to Clown Hat.
 
Ya the Tavor is 5.56 from everything ive heard of. Ya cool, but ya nothing to wet the pants about. Ill stick to my AR because I have an intense personal dislike for bullpup weapons.
 
I think the Tavor's advantage is that it is lighter, not as bulky to carry around in combat, higher accuracy than AR and less prone to jamming. I was reading Israelis switched to this weapon, because AR's were not so practical in desert conditions; they had lot of problems with jamming in combat situation. Anyway, I am just reading in Israeli newspapers that is why they switched to Tavor's from ARs, I have no personal experience with them.
 
The newer, even smaller version of the Tavor also comes in 9mm.

I like them, but I do think it would take a while to get used to quickly changing mags on a bullpup.
 
I believe the Tavor the Israealis use is 5.56. A little weapon like that would be great in 9mm or 40 cal.
 
i cant believe they have phased out the galil,& its only issued to certain units.i can see the tavor replacing it,but they still use the m4,too.look, the galil is gone but the m4/m16 lives on......
 
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