Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Teed off

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by blacksuit, Nov 21, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. blacksuit

    blacksuit Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2004
    Messages:
    82
    Location:
    Kansas
    I am kinda pissed off right now. I sit here in the great state of kansas and as many of you know I am in one of the 5 states that cannot conceal carry. Of course i think this crazy and can't believe that there are people out there that think that law abiding citizens should not be able to protect themselves. I am a corrections officer and work with the ???? bags of society on a daily basis..been threaten many times, which is part of the job but I cannot carry a weapon to protect my family if the need arises. I carry my gun in my vehicle but of course this doesn't do me a bit of good when I am not in it. I know what some of you are thinking, why don't you just move. Well I might in the future just to get out of this tree hugging sissy state. I am originally form ohio which just passed the CCW about a year ago. Sorry guys just had to vent to someone. :cuss:
     
  2. psyopspec

    psyopspec Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    Messages:
    4,159
    Location:
    Cape Cod
    When was the last time you wrote/called your elected officials with your views?
     
  3. Chut1st

    Chut1st Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2004
    Messages:
    199
    Location:
    TN
    Vent away, blacksuit. I hope it helps and I sure understand your attitude. We lived in Nebraska, another "mommy state", for 4 years and when we returned to our home state of Tennessee, one of the first things my wife and I did was take a CCW class and I got licensed to carry. We're blessed to live in the country in a very low-crime county but I never go to Memphis or Nashville without my trusty Kimber Pro Carry.

    Good luck in either getting the KS pols to see the light or moving to a state that trusts you as a law-abiding citizen and corrections professional.
     
  4. Mrs. Armoredman

    Mrs. Armoredman Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    378
    Location:
    Arizona
    Vent away blacksuit. You have the right to. My hubby is a Corrections Sgt. and can totally relate to your profession. He has been with the department for 3 years in Janaury. I hope someday you can move. Good luck to you.
     
  5. Preacherman

    Preacherman Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,309
    Location:
    Louisiana, USA
    Vent indeed! I'm also in the corrections field, as a Chaplain, and believe me, I go around a lot more comfortably knowing that, if I meet some of my "clients" on the street, or members of their gangs, I'm in a position to defend myself if need be.
     
  6. HABU

    HABU Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    536
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Preacherman
    I thought the preach is supposed to befreind everyone? Unlike the guards or warden, you have a non-partisan position. Why would the cons have a beef with you?
     
  7. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,430
    Location:
    North Central Florida and Miami Florida
    carry anyway. I did for about 35 years before Fla 'granted' a CCW to me.
     
  8. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    24,041
    Location:
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    The leftist extremists know perfectly well they'll never be able to shove socialism down America's throat as long as we, the people are able to resist. I think it's that simple.
     
  9. justice4all

    justice4all Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    341
    Location:
    Port Angeles, Washington
    You might check to see if you qualify under HR218.
     
  10. cerberus

    cerberus member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    742
    Location:
    Kimber Country
    You have to think a lot

    About where you and your family live now days. Kansas is another State I would never live in as long as they have their Anti-Gun carry type laws. :cuss:
     
  11. armoredman

    armoredman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2003
    Messages:
    16,214
    Location:
    proud to be in AZ
    Justice4all, we don't qualify here in Az because we aren't considered regular LE, as we don't have general arrest powers on the street.
    Blacksuit, welcome! If you are looking for a place, AZ DOC is always looking, as we will pay you for your years of experiance, as well. State COs here have the same statuatory right to carry as sworn LE, according to state law.
    What type of unit are you at right now? I am currently a Sgt at a sex offender yard,(gag), but worked lockdown for 2.5 years.
     
  12. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    3,547
    Location:
    N. TX
    Lemme take a shot at that one, as a person in law enforcement who has never been a chaplain, nor actually used the services of one, but who's seen a little bit of how it works:

    Chaplains are NOT supposed to brefreind everyone. They can.They sometimes do, I suppose. But a chaplain is to administer spiritual assistance or guidance as needed. I've no doubt that PM provides for the spiritual assistance of his charges, and takes it seriously. But here's the deal: P.M. is also certified as a corrections officer. He's NOT there to get 'em out, no matter what they might think.

    A lot of Bad Guys may request a chaplain's aid, thinking that he can "help them" in a different fashion than he is able or inclined to do. When he ministers to them only in the fashion that he is supposed to and no more, is it surprising that some of these convicted criminals may feel some umbrage toward him? After all, they were entitled! :rolleyes: Think also, PM hears spiritual confessions. Imagine a paranoid criminal who has to serve an extra couple of years for a crime, after having confessed to the chaplain. Now, PM didn't share what he heard in confession, but does the paranoid felon believe that? Oh, heck no. He got sold out, he just knows it.

    If I were Preacherman, I wouldn't go anywhere without a pistol outside of the joint.
     
  13. Sisco

    Sisco Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,775
    Location:
    KS
  14. Mal H

    Mal H Administrator

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,063
    Location:
    Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA
    If you heard some of the hair-raising true stories Preacherman has told us, you'd carry a concealed GE Minigun 24/7. He has more reason to carry than the vast majority of THR members.
     
  15. gbran

    gbran Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,967
    Location:
    california
    It's sad

    I grew up hunting & fishing in Kansas. Luv'd it. I've been in CA now longer than I was in Kansas. I have a CCW and am not far from reasonably good hunting. I don't like CA for other reasons, but I don't miss the weather, tornados, bugs, chiggers, ticks, leaches, humidity and freezing winters.
     
  16. HABU

    HABU Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    536
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Thanks MattG! I knew there was a good explanation I was unaware of, not being from an LE background.
     
  17. Preacherman

    Preacherman Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,309
    Location:
    Louisiana, USA
    I see that Matt and Mal have already answered for me, but I'd like to confirm what they said: being a Chaplain in a prison makes one more of a target, not less. You see, criminals in prison "get religion" for a huge number of reasons. They want to impress a Parole Board; they want to get a letter of reference for when they get out; they want some of the extra privileges a Chaplain can provide (e.g. additional telephone calls to family members, usually granted only for emergency purposes; special religious diet; etc.); and so on. Very few (perhaps 1 in 20) are genuine conversions. Now, as you might imagine, Chaplains get wise to this racket very, very quickly, and we're rather cautious in believing sudden conversion stories, sob stories, etc. When an inmate finds he can't wheedle something out of us, he'll often become abusive and/or threatening toward us. I've several times been threatened that members of the inmate's gang outside the walls would be asked to "get me" unless I gave the inmate what he wanted. Usually, that gets the inmate locked up in solitary confinement quicker than he can say "Huh?" - which endears me to him even less than before... :D
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2004
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page