teflon coated bullets

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remember the blue Teflon coated pistol bullets? I need the same kind of spray on stick on tefon for coating my bores of some old shotguns.cant think of a better way to stop pitting in 100+yr old shoyguns.
Aside from buying a thousand gallons industrially,does anyone know where I can buy spray on stick on Teflon paint?
 
I don't remember blue pistol bullets but I do remember some blue rifle bullets. Barnes made them. you could try asking them about that coating
 
How about coating them with ceramic? I seem to remember a company selling/doing ceramic bore coating. Can't remember the name though. Google might be a help here.

But honestly if you're looking for a way to stop pitting, putting a coating over it isn't going to stop it. It will just continue under it. Clean the bejesus out of the pits every time you shoot it, oil it well and the pits will stop growing.
 
The rationale for Teflon coating bullets was to reduce barrel wear; later, the anti-gun gang claimed they would penetrate protective vests and dubbed them "cop killer bullets." Some jurisdictions ban Teflon coating on bullets.

I am not sure coating a barrel with anything would reduce rusting/pitting; it would more than likely just allow the rusting to continue under the coating.

Jim
 
Properly cleaning and oiling will preserve your shotguns.

They're pitted because this didn't happen reliably over their lifetime. Picking up now and continuing with it will prevent any further pitting.
 
There are ways to treat shotgun bores to prevent rusting.

One is to have the bore hard chrome plated.
The only company I'm aware of that offers this is Metaloy of Fort Worth.
I'm not suer they do shotgun bores.

Newer methods are to have the bore processed with a Melonite process or a Nitride process.
 
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tjank you very ,much to all of you who replied.youve offered some very interesting ideas I hadn't thought of.thats why I came here to learn from real people with hands on experience. I rewrote the thread and altered it a little because I wanted to make clear I wasn't after Teflon coated bullets,but preserving an old bore. The 100+ year old shotguns came to me with some minor pitting and after naval jelly,i was just searching for a coating to stop future rust AND help my projectiles out easier.

So for moderator Al Thompson,thats why I did posted twice;because of the "Teflon is bad" crowd.I also understand I should have deleted the first and that's why my second thread was closed. My bad.

AT BBBill, I don't look at anything as shot down,but helped. you shouldn't look at things so negatively.at least not mine.

Thank you all for your input,it is greatly appreciated.
 
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No one belittled you. "Shot you down", shot down your idea" - just a turn of phrase. Meaning that no one believed that your idea would work based on personal experiences. Has nothing to do with you personally. I strive to keep personal issues personal, not on the net. As far as I know, there's nothing personal between us. Agreed?
And I don't write checks that I can't cash, with my mouth or otherwise.
 
The liberal press widely misreported Winchester Black Talon bullets to be Teflon coated so they could "slide" through police officers' bulletproof vests.
 
Two different lies. The Teflon bullets were the "cop killer" bullets that could penetrate vests, armor plate, tanks, whole mountain chains, and any other lie the writer could think up.

Black Talons were the ones that expanded and left sharp edges that cut through a surgeon's glove and his skin so he contracted AIDS from the person he was trying to save. The anti's demanded that those awful bullets be restricted to cops apparently on the theory that the AIDS virus would know that the bullet had been fired by a cop and not infect the surgeon.

Jim
 
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Thank you all very much for your replies and education. please bear with me because I do not know a lot of things,otherwise I wouldn't ask! if I seem rough around the edges, please forgive ,it's just habit. If you can't forgive,or don't like it then do something about it.
Im trying real hard to be cordial and learn about things I don't know on this internet. But cordiality is not one of my strong points, Training is. Learning is. Respect is. Again, thank you all for the input.

I remember the Black Talons,i don't know what they were coated with. I was just looking for a way to keep rust out of pits in 100+ yr old scatterguns,and help the slugs to slide out the barrel easier. I found a real good candidate in this stuff :

http://www.sprinco.com/plateplus.html#DESCRIPTION
 
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I think he was talking about Ni-Cad bullets from Federal.
 
One reality check, the Teflon issue was due to the infamous KTW cop-killer bullets. KTW referred to the inventors Kopsch, Turkel and Ward. Dr Kopsch did an interview with the NRA and explained the reasoning behind the Teflon coating. It was not to make the bullet slide through anything or to reduce barrel wear. It was to make the bullet stick to windshields long enough to penetrate. Kopsch knew about the old longbow archers' trick of putting a tiny bead of beeswax on the tip of their arrows to get them to penetrate the armor of the day. The wax would allow the arrow point to stick just long enough to get point into the armor rather than skid off.

What the best and brightest minds of the day (politicians that were paying too much attention to their own PR) could not grasp is that Teflon is chemically inert, but not mechanically inert. They never asked the simple question of how the pan manufacturers got the Teflon to stick to the frying pans if it was so slippery.
 
So a Teflon coating on a big game bullet would....enhance straight line penetration or slow it down??
I didn't know about that or the beeswax thing.
 
Just to have some fun.....here are some old "Teflon" coated bullets. These happen to be 38 +P 158 gr LSWCHPs of Federal Premium manufacture. Federal dubbed these bullets "Nyclad" I'm unsure of how old they are but they are in both my carry guns.

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What do you think the coating does?Whyd they put it there? My dad still has some from his LEO days. You think its just a marketing gimmick? Or do they do some special thing? I think the "stick to windshields" thing that one guy said might hold some validity..pistol bullets really aren't going that fast,so it could be true. I don't know if itd go through a vest just because its got that coating.
 
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Reality check; A man named W.E. Birdsong perfected a teflon coating for firearms called Black-T. www.black-t.com
His work protects all the alphabet agencies weapons, many military weapons around the world, S&W sells some of their products new, with his coating. I know his sons, (he has passed) They coat every little pin, screw, spring, and part on these firearms........
EXCEPT for the INSIDES of BARRELS. The barrels are carefully plugged so that the teflon coating does NOT get inside. These folks have been doing this since the 70's. There must be a good reason they do not coat the inside of barrels. (including shotguns)
If you are really just concerned with "help the slugs to slide out the barrel easier" then perhaps, you should consider using sabots which would have plastic around the "slug" while traveling down the tube.
If you infact wish a round which will penetrate body armor, improve your marksmanship and aim else where.
 
I have always been in business for myself, many years ago I empoyed a number of policeman part time in my stores. One evening we were playing around and I had Thunderzaps loaded in my SW model 59 9mm, they were coated in teflon, green color, they penetrated a second chance vest owned by one of the officers, he had laid it on the ground to be tested. It sure pissed him off. But the rest of us had a good laugh, I bought him a new second chance vest.
 
It is my understanding that KTW pentrator round had a teflon coating (almost a jacket) to protect the gun barrel because the core was hard. It is also my understanding that the core at normal velocities would penetrate as well if one had jacketed the bullet with copper, nylon, or wrapped them in paper like some 45-70 bullets. It was the hard dense core that did the penetrating, not the teflon.

I had a corrections offcier try to tell me that my 38 shotsells with Speer shot capsules were plastic cop killer bullets and ought to be banned and what did I want them for?
 
The Teflon coating was to improve penetration on the materials the designers wanted to penetrate, auto body sheet metal and safety glass. Read the article linked above.
The early KTWs had copper half jackets over their tungsten or hardened steel cores to take the rifling and "protect the bore." Later ones were solid bronze which can be engraved by rifling, see the various "monolithic" safari gun bullets.
 
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