Tell me about Cooper Arms of Montana

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I'm considering buying a higher end bolt action or single shot rifle to pass down through my family. By "higher end" I mean around $1,500 without a scope or $2,000 with a scope.

Of course, at the same time I want to use the rifle. While it could sit in my safe for 40 years or longer and never get scratched, it would have far more sentimental value to my family members if the rifle were used for enjoyment, target shooting, competition, or taking game.

I often look at some objects that have been passed down to me. Their monetary value varies, but it's the connection between the object and a family member that make it truly valuable.

This is a tradition in my family I want to continue and with that said, I'm looking for longevity and utility.

Enter Cooper Arms. I came across this company after researching higher end rifles in my budget. I've considered Sako and Kimber as well as the import brands (Browning, Winchester, etc).

It's my understanding that Dan Cooper founded his company after leaving Kimber. My main gripe with Kimber is the shoddy quality and poor customer service I experienced with their 1911 pistols. I used to own two Kimber 1911 pistols and they would not function and would rust badly. Their customer service was down right rude and disinterested in my problems. Needless to say, I'm not interested in owning another Kimber. I'm hoping Mr. Cooper's attitude is better.

Sako makes a nice rifle, but I don't really like having to deal with a middle man. I like the fact that with American companies, I deal directly with the people that made my rifle rather than an importer. The same can be said for Browning and Winchester, all of which are owned by Beretta.

There's also the value of being Made in the USA. There aren't a whole lot of things I can buy made in this country anymore. At least with firearms, I can support American industry.

So there you have it. Maybe I'm verbose, but that's what I'm looking for :D

Will a Cooper fit the bill? Is their warranty and customer service interested in keeping me as a customer should any problems arise? Will this rifle be shooting 40 years from now?

Thanks for reading.
 
IIRC I read not too long ago that he's going out of bussiness.

If I'm wrong then I appologise for speading an internet rumor. Just check the company out before you buy.
 
Don't have any experience with them myself, but I've lusted for one for a while. By all accounts, their rifles are astoundingly accurate and well-made. I haven't heard any gripes about their customer service, either. IMO, a Cooper rifle would be a very nice heirloom piece.

Many Cooper owners seem to be rimfire shooters, and they have their own subforum on rimfirecentral. You might take a look there to get some feedback about their customer service:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57

Or check out this link from right here at THR:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=207549
 
I have a Cooper LVT in .17 HMR and a Montana Varminter in .204. The only regret I have is I didn't buy them sooner.
 
They have a whole display of Coopers at Scheel's here in Lincoln. They all have a test target, and virtually all of them have a 3 shot group with all holes touching.
 
They are very pretty rifles. I want one, but I'm not sure of the company, so I thought I'd post here :)

Here's some pics I found on the net: http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek047.html

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The build quality of the Cooper rifles are exceptional, IMO, for the price you pay. They are at least equal to that of Anschütz Meister grade (heavy barrel) sporter guns and usually better than the MPRs (the beavertail stock profiles common on the Cooper LVT/Varmint-type guns are very similar to the Anschütz MPRs.). Exceptional wood and metal part clearances. The factory test target provided with each rifle will be incredible usually one oval hole samples. Duplicating that precision is a bit of a chore for most, however. The test targets (at least the rimfires) are noted to be shot at 50 yds but Dan did say at a meet-and-greet event at a local shop that the actual distance is about 47 yds, IIRC. Cooper regularly attends meet-and-greets throughout the year at select gunshops and hosts/sponsers occasional shoots. Check out their website for details.

(Have a 57M in .17 HMR.)
 
I didn't write this quote, but I own a Cooper. From an old thread...

"I had to return my Cooper to the factory. 57M in 22LR and the best I could get was 1/2" groups with a flyer here and there...

First they recrowned it, shot it and went back to the bench. Rechambering didn't do what they wanted, so they replaced the barrel. Now it shoots 1/4" groups with everything from $10/box Eley Gold-Uber Match to $1 CCI std velocity.

Cooper paid to have it shipped round trip.

Did I mention I bought the gun USED?

Cooper didn't care: it had their name in it, and by God, they will make it shoot right.

Let me add my thumbs up along with those of my friend Lunde and his top-notch Dad.

(By the way, the guns aren't picky about ammo. Ken's groups for 223 above were loaded on my 550B at 300+/hr using my standard varmint load and new brass: nothing special)"


- Post #29 www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2544149
 
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