Terminator's shotgun?

[Lightsped]

I'm not referring to the SPAS 12. I am referring to the lever action shotgun he had in Terminator 2. He carried it through much of the movie. The shootout in the back hallways of the mall, the motorcycle chase, shootout in the nut house where Sarah was kept, etc...

What is this lever action shotgun?

 

[Hornet 6]

Google says it's a Winchester.
But what model I have no idea, sorry.
Replica Winchester.
Neil.

 

[MudPuppy]

Is it this:
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=722

(well, an original I'd expect, not a chinese import...)

 

[earthling?]

The original is an 1887 Winchester Lever Action. Norinco of China seems to be the only co. still making these. I think it is a good looking 12 gauge.

 

[Jack2427]

I have one, it is a copy of the 1887 Winchester. I got mine from Coyote Cap and had a action job done, it is one cool SG. It is also very useful as a HD or LE weapon EXCEPT that is must be reloaded from the top with the action open, somewhat slower than a modern pump.
I know it is very close to the original because I have an original 1887 also, a 12 gauge that was used by a Texas Ranger. I also have a model 01 which is th same gun made in 10 gauge.
I started out collecting LE/military shotguns becaue when I did it they were the cheapest things to collect; I paid $10 each for 4 perefect Winchester 1997s which were in the money room rack at a local race track. Got over 100 now, many of them recent models because tactical shotguns are a rather recent innovaton; previously they were just sawed off(or factory short) barrels of huntng guns.

 

[Moonclip]

lets see some pics, in a 100 of them theres got to be some interesting ones like that bullpup High Standard! I need that Chinese clone lever action Winchester eventually as well as the 97 clone.

 

[Lucky]

Don't buy it, it's Norinco, if you do buy it horrible things will happen! I can attest to this! I have to buy a big gun safe now, all because of Norincos.

Ha ha yea Norinco guns are awesome deals.

P.S.
It was a 10-gauge the T(800?) used.

 

[owlhoot]

I have a couple of 1887's. Here is the pretty one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/Owlhoot/wIN1887.jpg

 

[Logan5]

Back when, there was a rumor that one of the distributors was going to be coming out with a PGO 1887 T2 replica if the demand looked to be there... Adventurer's Outpost maybe? I'm not sure if it ever happened, but I kind of think not.

 

[Dionysusigma]

Wouldn't it bring it under the req'd OAL?

 

[Fred Fuller]

Got over 100 now, many of them recent models because tactical shotguns are a rather recent innovaton; previously they were just sawed off(or factory short) barrels of huntng guns.

Jack2427,

I'm perplexed by that statement.

Well back in the 1800s, various companies built short SXS shotguns as 'express' or 'messenger' guns for use on stage coaches and railroad express cars. These were the purpose built fighting shotguns of their day.

There was even a factory 'riot' version of the Winchester 1901 lever action shotgun, in 10 gauge no less.

The US military issued both trench guns and riot guns in WW1, including thousands of your beloved Winchester 97s. These guns were purpose built for fighting. Yet you say these were not "tactical shotguns?"

The same thing happened in WW2, Korea and Vietnam.

Police and security agencies have been buying riot guns as manufactured from the factory for over a century. These guns were purpose built for fighting. And yet these were not "tactical shotguns?"

Please tell me what is a "tactical shotgun" in your definition? I'm genuinely curious to know.

Thanks,

lpl/nc

 

[nezumi]

I certainly hope Terminator had a tax stamp for that weapon, since I'm pretty sure it would be illegal without!

 

[Roccobro]

If it would be under the length with a shortened stock, wouldn't a modern Mossberg "Cruiser" with just a PG be "illegal" also? Just play the federal OAL and Barrel length game any your fine.

I think that would also be a nice addition to my lever collection...

Justin

 

[El Hombre]

Actually I believe it was the Winchester 1901 in 10 gauge, not the model 1887 that was used for the movie.

 

[KarbineKrazy]

that lever action looks to have much short receiver then any pump....

Could very easily fall short of OAL restrictions...

 

[19-3Ben]

Please tell me what is a "tactical shotgun" in your definition? I'm genuinely curious to know.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that he was referring to the modern, black plastic, matte finish pump or auto-loaders with surefire fore-ends, and red dots mounted on top, etc.... It's what is "tactical" these days. In modern parlance, the skill of the shooter, nor the application of the gun is not what makes it "tactical". it's the gizmos that hang off it.

 

[Logan5]

No offense, but it will officially be thread jacking if we go off on that tangent. How tactical is it to leave the shotgun mostly stock, and replace the user with a killer robot? Because for home defense, I might be willing to look into that...

 

[19-3Ben]

No offense, but it will officially be thread jacking if we go off on that tangent.

Indeed. I was merely trying to answer a question that was probably rhetorical anyway.
My bad. we now resume our regularly scheduled program. shotguns and robots.

 

[Caimlas]

I certainly hope Terminator had a tax stamp for that weapon, since I'm pretty sure it would be illegal without!

Any chance of him coming back again and seeing if they'll try and take it?

<Terminator>"From my cold dead hands!"</Terminator>

* dozens/hundreds of BATFE agents suddenly need a new pair of shorts *

 

[Lucky]

How tactical is it to leave the shotgun mostly stock, and replace the user with a killer robot? Because for home defense, I might be willing to look into that...

Then the point of the movies has been lost on you

 

[serrano]

The guns of Terminator 2

Winchester Model 1887

 

[Tom D]

I seem to recall that the armorers enlarged the lever on the Terminator's 1897shotgun so Arnold could cock the gun by twirling it around. I don't believe the replicas have this feature.

 

[RCR29]

Tom, that is correct. The movie gun had a large loop and an aluminum barrel. At least one version did. IIRC there is a whole section on the movie weapons in the special features of the T2 dvd.

Also, I believe Ahnold's gun was a 12 gauge, which would make it an 1887 model, as the 1901 model was 10 gauge only.

 

[Ed DCB]

There is a much better quality italian made 1887 available now http://www.dcbshooting.com/winchester_1887_lever_action/winchester_1887.html

 

[panzer426]

It was a 10 gauge in the movie...the sound guys combined a 12 gauge shotgun blast and added a 45 handgun blast to make the sound effects for it.

Heres the real thing since the knock offs are apparently (and not surprisingly) a rip off. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.asp It's not mine and I know nothing about it...this thread just made me curious so I looked it up.