Texan argues for concealed carry (in KS)

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Texan argues for concealed carry
Lone Star lawmaker lost both parents in restaurant rampage

http://www.ljworld.com/section/stateregional/story/164415

By John Hanna - Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, March 16, 2004

Topeka — A Texas legislator whose parents died in a 1991 shooting spree in a cafeteria urged a Kansas Senate committee to endorse a bill that would allow Kansans to carry concealed weapons.

The Federal and State Affairs Committee is reviewing a House-passed measure that would require the state to issue concealed-carry permits to any Kansan who qualifies and pays a $150 application fee. People would qualify if they were 21 and American citizens, had undergone eight hours of gun training and did not suffer from a mental illness or drug and alcohol addiction.

Texas state Rep. Suzanna Hupp told the committee she wished she'd had her gun with her when she and her parents dined at a Luby's restaurant in Killeen, Texas, in October 1991. She'd left her gun in her car, something she realized only after a man rammed his truck into the building, got out and started shooting.

She said she was not carrying the gun in her purse because she didn't want to break the law and lose her chiropractor's license. She acknowledged that if she had her gun, she might not have hit the assailant but added she would have at least changed the situation. Twenty-three people died, including her parents.

"I'm angry, as you can tell," she said. "I was mad at hell at my legislators, because I felt they had legislated me out of my right to protect myself."

Hupp, a Republican, first won her seat in the Texas House in 1996, having already become a vocal gun rights advocate.

Texas enacted a concealed-carry law in 1995, and only Kansas, Illinois, Nebraska and Wisconsin do not have such a statute, though nine states put some restrictions on residents' ability to receive a permit.

"If you can imagine -- sitting there, like a fish in a barrel, waiting for it to be your turn," Hupp said.

The committee planned to hear from opponents of the bill today. In the past, they have argued that enacting a concealed-carry law would lead to an increase in gun-related violence.

But Rep. L. Candy Ruff, a primary sponsor of the bill, said in other states, 1 percent or fewer residents typically seek concealed-carry permits. "We are talking about law-abiding citizens," she said.

"They are not the type of people who are involved in road rage," said Ruff, D-Leavenworth.

The Legislature approved a concealed-carry bill in 1997, but then-Gov. Bill Graves vetoed it. Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has said she supports concealed carry only for retired law enforcement officers and probably would not sign a broader bill.

Earlier this month, the House approved the bill, 78-45. Supporters were six votes short of a two-thirds majority, which is required to override a gubernatorial veto.

This year's bill contains a list of places where it would remain illegal to carry concealed guns, including courthouses, jails, prisons, polling places, bars, taverns, the Statehouse and the Kansas State Fair.

Sen. John Vratil, a Federal and State Affairs Committee member, said he would like to see churches added to the list. He also said he wonders why the right to carry concealed weapons would be limited to U.S. citizens.

"I think we've got a form of discrimination here," said Vratil, R-Leawood.
 
This women deserves a medal. It seems like everywhere there is a CCW debate going on this women shows up to tell her story. From what I hear when she is done there is hardly a dry eye in the place.
 
She actually fills in for one of the local talk show host sometimes when he takes a vacation. She is as eloquent and logical and polite and right as it seems in this thread. I wish I could vote for her, but as long as she is elected from a different district I will take it!
 
Hupp is truely the kind of person we need in government. She makes me proud to be a Texan

Tex
 
It was great of her to come here and speak but I fear that it is a waste of time trying to educate the antis in this state.The legislature will trust a 14 year old to drive a car but won't trust a 21 year,or older,person to carry a gun.Boy,I sure miss Oklahoma.......
 
Wouldn't it be great to see her go toe to toe against Diane and Hilliary? :D

Wish I could vote for her. If she'd run I'd contribute to her campaign. :)
 
Desertdog thanks for posting that. Besides writing letters we're keeping our fingers crossed on this bill
You folks from Kansas are writing letters, aren't you?
 
You folks from Kansas are writing letters, aren't you?

So far I've written my representative, Lana Gordon, and she voted for it in the House.

I've also written my State Senator, President of the Senate, all Senate Committee Members and the Governor. Here are some of the responses I've received:

Thank you for your e-mail.

I would like to answer everyone’s e-mail personally and individually,
but I’m afraid we have to give up. The rate at which e-mails are
coming into our office makes it impossible..

For example, on Monday, March 15, alone, I received 152 e-mails and
calls just concerning the amendment to oppose same-sex marriage. Add to
that the e-mails and calls concerning the issues of gambling or
concealed-carry, and you can see that my office staff and I would be
doing nothing but answering e-mails – no time to research issues,
prepare reports, or help me stay organized so that I can represent you
to the best of my ability.

Please know that I do appreciate your e-mails. They keep me in touch
with the feelings of my constituents and the other citizens of Kansas.

Once again, thank you.

Sincerely,

Donald Betts Jr.
Senator, 29th District


March 16, 2004

I support concealed carry.

Kay O'Connor
Kansas State Senator
District No. 9

Thanks for your email. I must be honest with you as I
have some concerns about carrying concealed weapons. I believe we should
be able to defend ourselves, but I am concerned about drinking
situations when good judgement is impaired. However, I'll look forward
to the debate with an open mind. Senator Bill Bunten

Thank you for your letter in support of allowing the concealed carry of
firearms. I recently offered a survey in the Hutchinson News which
contained a question on this issue. The results were slightly in favor
of those opposed to a change in the law. However, based on input from
the community, those who are in favor seem to be more passionate in
their stance.

In the Senate, we have examined numerous statistical studies from
different areas which allow concealed carry. The indications are that
these areas do not have significantly different crime rates from those
who do not allow concealed firearms.

I do not know what the outcome of this legislation will be. I will
personally continue to review evidence prior to any votes on this
issue.



Dave Kerr
Senate President
Statehouse, Room 359E
Topeka, KS 66612
(785) 296-2419
(785) 296-6718 (fax)

We obviously have MUCH work left to do. Write Letters. Make Phone Calls. :banghead:

Be Nice! Have I said that before? :D
 
Yep Sisco,talked to Mr Tafanelli about it,called Bill Lyons' office too.Both are
strong supporters.Had about 10 minutes air time on WIBW talking about it
on the afternoon talk show too.It's a harder sell with the Rinos from JO county and you'll never get the reps from People's Republic of Lawrence or
WY county to support it either.Plus the Governess will veto it anyway.
 
I got this reply from my state Senate rep:

Thank you for your e-mail note on the "concealed carry" bill. I have
supported this legislation in the past and I am planning on supporting
it this year. Again, thanks for your input.

Sincerely,

Stephen R. Morris
Senator, 39th District
 
I've been in contact with my guys, who happen to be Bob Lyon & Lee Tafanelli. They are already on the side of the good guys.
Shanghai, you must be somewhere not too far from my stomping grounds out past Perry.
 
bobs1066,yes we arn't far apart,I live near McLouth.I always enjoy talking
to Lee Tafanelli.He and Lyon are some of the good guys.Wish there were more on our side.Plus Lee likes to duck hunt.
 
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