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When I left Austin last year, the Manor Outdoor range was closing and for sale, because the city hiked the property tax for them and the owner couldn't profit from it. It used to be a primary training ground for APD. I don't know about you, but Austin is missing outdoor ranges. I heard (Eagle Peak?) or whichever range Crazy Richard runs is also closing and up for sale.
 
Serious consideration should be given to Fort Worth. Close enough to Dallas, and Tarrant County is a lot cheaper than Dallas County when it comes to property and taxes. Good gun crowd, plenty of customers. The west side or northwest side of town is pretty much wide open for that type of business. You might check into it. I wouldn't live in Dallas county on a bet.
 
Don't forget the Brazos River Valley area. College Station, Bryan and some smaller communities make up one of the finest areas in the state.

You might want to check out the current situation in that neck of the woods.
 
Is everyone forgetting this gentleman's restrictions? He has plainly straited his requirements, and the pleading for other locations is a waste of time. If you can help, then do so, not just promote having it in you backyard because you like where you live.
 
Is everyone forgetting this gentleman's restrictions? He has plainly straited his requirements, and the pleading for other locations is a waste of time. If you can help, then do so, not just promote having it in you backyard because you like where you live.
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Thank you for trying to keep this on track..... and the Fort Worth comment was very much appreciated.... as an outsider to Texas, it slipped my mind about how close they are, and so that opened up new areas for me to consider.

Once again, thank you all for your help, Please keep the ideas comming.
 
geophysicishooter - Thanks for the link, but that is a Reform synagogue....

(The following might offend some, so understand it is just my view point, and not discriminatory, or in any way disparaging the followers of Reform)

To Orthodox Judaism they are kind of like a lapsed Catholic, except the lapsed Catholic doesn't make excuses for their behavior :evil:


And thanks for the info on Dallas/Ft. Worth or Ft. Worth/Dallas.... I spoke to a commercial broker, and I should be getting more info tomorrow on properties that are available. :D
 
Dallas county and city taxes might kill you anyway.
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Couldn't have said it better. Then, insurance for everything is higher in Dallas and Tarrant Counties.

Go where the growth is, but where you can get more value for your dollar.

Lot of sportsmen out in Wise County and Denton County--north of Fort Worth and north of Dallas. Very conservative areas, too, with LOTS of CCL holders and plenty of disposable income. Plus, the areas are a helluva lot more business-friendly than Dallas/Tarrant counties.

Don't know anything about Houston, and there's not enough money to give me to even consider living in Austin.

Jeff
 
I was shooting at Thunder gun range in Conroe, so so condition, no range officer the few times I've been there and then they jacked up the prices to $10 per gun. If I'm going accidently get shot, I would prefer to do it on the cheap.I'm a safe shooter, but the last time I was there had two rank amatuers who scared crap out of me. They werent kids, they were in their fifties....
 
" $10 per gun." Crazy. In Texas if you charge over $3.50 per gun, you'd better have something really special going for you. As Lash pointed out, it's vital to have a range officer that assures safety at all times.

Just as an example, insight as it were for your entrance to Texas, the ranges (outside) I frequent in the San Antonio area average $3.50 per gun..$3.50 per target for handguns.

Exceptions being places like the "The Bullet Hole" where you can fire full auto all day for a price.
 
PM sent. I guess if my favorite dealer isn't really serious about retiring I should leave his name off the public forum. He's one of the few people older than I am. Fuff makes a claim to that effect but I haven't seen any proof.

Good luck.
 
Sportsman's shooting Center

Last I heard...
This indoor range in Friendswood was up for sale...
We actually looked at it a coupla years ago...

A bunch of high-end reloading equipment,
property,
range,
etc.

Was a bit more than I had to spend on something that would basically be a hobby.

Sportsman Shooting Ctr
4425 FM 2351 Rd Ste D, Friendswood, TX 77546

(281) 482-9837


Good Luck!
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There was a facetious post in a thread 5 or so years back proposing that the Six Flags Mall, which was hit by a sort of economic neutron bomb, be purchased and turned into a long range rifle range.

Hmmmmm

Found it:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=24365

I believe the place was still deserted the last time I went by. I keep thinking .50BMG in air conditioned comfort.
 
Just wanted to let you all know, spoke to a commercial broker in DFW and Houston... waiting to hear back on what is out there....

You all think 2500 - 3000 sq. ft is large enough? :)
 
3000 sq ft - for a range - how long do you plan it to be? What's the square root of 3000?

Have you contacted the NRA - they have info on range building.
 
No, I mean 3000 sq ft for the store area, and an office.

For a range I will need about 400 sq. ft (4x100) per lane for a 75 ft indoor range.

I am starting off with a store and gunsmith facility, with a range in a year or two.
 
4 lanes is kind of small. Most of the indoor ranges around here have more. It would be easier to start with more at the get go if you could get the capital.

75 foot indoor range is really just pistols - you wouldn't get the 100 yards out you see that people use for sighting in rifles that is important in the seasons in TX.
 
GEM - not 4 lanes... 4 feet by 100 feet for one lane. So for 10 lanes, we are talking 40 feet by 100 feet.

The reason I am putting off the range is to see what sells, so I can figure out how many and what kind of range I need.... the larger the range, the more expensive, and the more I would have to charge to make any kind of profit.

But the size of the range isn't that important right now, or how many lanes. I am more curious as to the size of the store.... is 3000 sq. ft. good for a store?
 
Once all the hustle and bustle of Dallas wears you out, please come on down to the Hill Country! We need a range in Leander or Cedar Park.
 
Sorry ieszu, not all Texans ignore your requests.

Please don't hold the inability of some to follow directions effect your decisions, we are a pretty safe bunch and sometimes listen to others, sometimes, lol.

Let us know when you find a place, I travel to Dallas and would love to visit your future store. Now if you decide on Houston, can I get a frequent visitor card :)
 
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