The BFR!

[Auburn1992]

Just wondering, if you were to get one, would you get it in .30-30 or .45-70?

I'm leaning towards the .30-30 due to ammo costs and recoil but I have an open mind. Anyone ever shot one of these beasts? They say on the website that the .45-70 will recoil less than a 44 mag... I find that really hard to believe. Can someone back this up?

Thanks for the help,

Auburn

 

[gbran]

What do you want to do with it?

 

[jgo296]

since its called a big fu**ing revolver you have to get the 45-70
umm i kinna doubt that kick statement unless they are talking about the scandium 44 with hot loads

 

[Auburn1992]

Mostly just target, but I like the pure power of how it looks, especially with wood grips. I will eventually take it out to whitetail deer hunt, I'm in TN so the maximum shot I would need is around 100 yards. What kind of velocity do you think I could get from both of the calibers?

 

[Gator]

I've never fired one, but my TC contender in .45-70 does indeed have less recoil, when using factory 405 gr ammo, than my .44s. They weigh about the same, 4.5# for the Contender and 4.3# for the BFR. The .45-70 is a very versatile round, it can be mild or earthshaking, depending on the load.

 

[Auburn1992]

Have you chronod your velocities yet from it? Also, what type of ammo are you using?

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Boy, usually powerful necked rounds cause all kinds of binding problems in a revolver** - wonder how they did that. Sure, Taurus got the hornet and bee to work, but the .30-30 is a hoss of a round - good engineering or problem waiting to happen?

Just on the sheer novelty, I'd have to run with .30-30 in that situation if I thought it would run - talk about a fireball!

**Due to this - upon firing, the case sets back and pounds against the face of the gun, but instead of bouncing back into the chamber like a straight walled cartridge, the expansion of the case neck of the bottle-necked round, while set back, behind the neck area of the chamber, prevents the case from bouncing back into the firing position, binding them up real good. I don't know how Taurus overcame this...

This belongs in revolver forum, not here.

 

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Walker

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggest,_Finest_Revolver
Magnum Research
Manufacturer Magnum Research
Unit cost US$899 [1]
Specifications
Weight 3.6lb - 5.3lb (1633g - 2404g)
Length 12.75inches - 17.5inches (324mm - 445mm)
Barrel length 6.5inches (165mm) (Short cylinder only), 7.5inches (191mm), or 10inches (254mm)
Width 1.75inches (44mm)
Height 6inches (152mm)

Then there is the WALKER

Type Revolver
Place of origin United States
Service history
In service 1847-48 then evolved into subsequent designs
Used by United States
Production history
Designer Samuel Colt, Samuel Walker
Designed 1847
Manufacturer Colt Firearms
Produced c.1847-1849
Number built 1,100
Variants Fluke Dragoons and Post Walker Transition
Specifications
Weight 4.5lb (1.9 kg)
Length 15.5 inch
Barrel length 9 inch (229 mm

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0012637216416a.shtml

 

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[Seancass]

i'm sorry i didnt get the 45-70 version when i had the chance. i think i need to move that up the to-buy list. at the time i couldn't justify the ammo cost for a plinker. of course i still cant, but i still want one.

 

[weisse52]

45-70, Go big or stay home.

 

[owlhoot]

By all means the 45-70. Get an inexpensive Lee loader and stuff it full of the holy black. That ought to be worth watching.

 

[Smokeypcolt]

Holy black in BFR

I tried some some black power loads in my 45/70 BFR and after about 1 to 2 cylinders the revolver gets bound up from the fouling due to the tight clearances the Magnum uses. Get a Lee loader and stick to the smokeless powders, load to the trapdoor load tables and you are good to go for less the 50 cents a round using 405 grain rnfp cast lead bullets. By the way if you load the Walker at the high end, you will get much more recoil than the BFR.

 

[BillinNH]

If you're going to be excessive, might as well go all the way and get the 45-70. At least you can load it down to something manageable.

Bill

 

[Auburn1992]

I was just wondering, would it be safe to shoot... say a 45 long colt (or 45 acp w/ moon clips) out of a BFR chambered for 45-70? I just checked and the .45 colt's bulet is .456" and .45-70 bullet is .458"

 

[20nickels]

Auburn,
Don't bother. It would be inaccurate, a PITA with clips designed for DA revos and likely unsafe.

 

[Evocatii]

Why waste your time? Go get yourself something in .500 or .460

 

[Auburn1992]

I would probably go for the .460 but if I spend that much on it I think that the BFR would better live up to its name if its in 45-70. Along with that .460 pretty expensive, don't know how it compares to .45-70 though.

 

[cookekdjr]

I'd rather get a Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag or .45 Lc. I had a one in .44, it was a sweet shooter, sold it only b/c I had to. Get one in w/a 7.5" barrel, you'll have all the handgun you'll ever need for deer. just my 2 cents.

 

[Big Boomer]

Although I still LOVE my BFR, I bought one in the 500 Mag and you NEED to read my post here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-327299.html

Now that being said, I have replaced the grips and got me some shootin gloves but have not fired it again. So it's been a while needless to say and I have recently gone to the doc and set an appointment for the orthopedic specialist seems I am still having nerve pain due to the incident almost 6 months later.

I would love one in a 45/70, I think the 30/30 is just to wimpy for this type of pistol. Not I am NOT saying get the 500 per say, but you could look at some of the other calibers.

The 45/70 basically has the ballistics of a 454 Casull but operates at much lower pressures.

Now if I were to purchase another, I think I would go for the 460 Mag, BFR's are built for super high pressure stuff like this. I think it would be a dream.

Now regardless of what caliber you choose I'd get the 10" barrel. One, you aint gonna CCW this sucker anyhow. The longer sight radius helps as well as the extra weight on the barrel for recoil. Plus having the longer barrel actually matches up better anatomically to the long cylinder. Simply looks better.

They are built like a brick **** house! I was very impressed with the quality of workmanship on the piece. I bought mine close out at the Sportsman's warehouse for $699.99 (that's why I couldn't resist )

 

[SASS#23149]

I've never seen a 45colt bullet that was .456 diameter,most are .452 or 454,no?
Not that I"ve seen it all of course.

but to answer the question...
45-70 !!!!!!!!

 

[Redhawk1]

I voted for get any BFR and you will be happy. I have owned a BFR in 500 Mag for over 5 years now and have over 5000 rounds down the tube. The gun is holding up great, I bought a BFR in 45-70 last your and I just love the gun. My BFR 500 Mag has taken a few black bears and a bunch of deer. My BFR in 45-70 is going on it's first black bear hunt in August.

Personally I would get either the 45-70, 460 or 500 Mags.

For those of you that voted as a boat anchor, I would love to take you to the range and show you a well made gun as well as a tack driver.

 

[LightningMan]

I have only shot a BFR once as someone let me try it and it was a 444 Marlin. If I was wanting to buy one, I might go with one in that cal. LM

 

[RustyShackelford]

specs for the .45-70/BFR...

I got an IMI/BFR catalog and saw the specs for the 7" bar 45-70 SA revolver. If I had the time/$$$/space, I would buy it for handgun hunting for mid size/small game..

RS