Riomouse911
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In a world of unlimited budgets I’m sure training with duty stuff would be ideal, but in all honesty I haven’t seen enough of an impact change at our normal combat course distances to really see a huge difference.
We’ve used 115 gr FMJ and 124 gr fmj for practice for ages. It has a bit less buck and roar than our duty rounds. (We recently went from 127 g +P+ to 124 gr +P loads for duty. I heard it’s because some makers were voiding warranty claims on personally owned guns used on duty by individual employees.)
There may be some additional drop at distance, but fundamentals are fundamentals and teaching/ instilling those is accomplished easier with 2-3-4 times higher volumes of range time that the fmj loads allow compared to the same budget for duty stuff.
Rifle/carbine is pretty much the same. We use 55 gr or 62 gr fmj for training (depending on availability and cost) and we issue 64 gr bonded rifle rounds for duty. There will be an impact difference at 100 yds and greater (We utilize a 50 yard zero) but within 275 to 300 yds the bullets all impact on a torso sized target without having a crazy amount of holdover.
Travis Haley /Panteao Productions has a good You Tube video called “Zeriong at distance” that explains why we use the 50 yrd zero.
Stay safe.
We’ve used 115 gr FMJ and 124 gr fmj for practice for ages. It has a bit less buck and roar than our duty rounds. (We recently went from 127 g +P+ to 124 gr +P loads for duty. I heard it’s because some makers were voiding warranty claims on personally owned guns used on duty by individual employees.)
There may be some additional drop at distance, but fundamentals are fundamentals and teaching/ instilling those is accomplished easier with 2-3-4 times higher volumes of range time that the fmj loads allow compared to the same budget for duty stuff.
Rifle/carbine is pretty much the same. We use 55 gr or 62 gr fmj for training (depending on availability and cost) and we issue 64 gr bonded rifle rounds for duty. There will be an impact difference at 100 yds and greater (We utilize a 50 yard zero) but within 275 to 300 yds the bullets all impact on a torso sized target without having a crazy amount of holdover.
Travis Haley /Panteao Productions has a good You Tube video called “Zeriong at distance” that explains why we use the 50 yrd zero.
Stay safe.
