The Forgotten Militia Amendment

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The Forgotten Militia Amendment
The Real Collective Right Amendment

By Robert Greenslade & Claude Ellsworth


Those groups and individuals opposed to the private ownership of firearms claim that when the Constitution was written, the several States did not have the "right" to maintain armed militias. As a consequence, the States, according to these individuals, adopted the so-called "collective right" Second Amendment to prevent the federal government from disarming their militias. The assertion that the States proposed a so-called "collective right" amendment is correct. Two States did indeed request such an amendment. However, this "collective right" amendment was not the one that became the Second Amendment.
Despite this fact, several legal commentators have attempted to develop the "collective right" interpretation in law reviews written during the past several decades. Their writings have been adopted by modern gun control advocates as the "proper interpretation" of the Second Amendment.

In his law review on the Second Amendment, Ray Weatherup made the following statement:

Delegates to the Constitutional Convention had no intention of establishing any personal right to keep and bear arms. Therefore, the 'individual' view must be rejected in favor of the 'collectivist' interpretation, which is supported by history...

Mr. Weatherup's statement is disingenuous for several reasons. First, is the implication that the delegates were sent to the Federal Convention to establish so-called "personal rights." The delegates were, in fact, sent for the sole and express purpose of revising the existing federal system of government established by the Articles of Confederation. Second, is the statement that the delegates "had no intention of establishing any personal right to keep and bear arms." The right had existed in the colonies since their inception by virtue of English Common Law. In addition, none of the powers being proposed for the federal government were to have any affect on the existing rights of the people, including the individual right to keep and bear arms. Third, is his insinuation that the Constitution is the source of people's rights. The Declaration of Independence asserts that the people have unalienable or natural rights that emanate from a higher source than government or written constitutions.

On September 12, 1787, five days before the Federal Convention completed its work, a proposal was made to preface the Constitution with a bill of rights. This proposal was deemed "unnecessary" and was quickly and unanimously rejected. It would be almost four years before the so-called Bill of Rights would be added to the constitutional compact between the several States. Thus, the Constitution did not establish any personal rights, "collective or individual."

Professor John Levin, in his law review article, argued the right to keep and bear arms, as enumerated in the Second Amendment, relates to the "federal" militia:

Though the Constitution was ratified, the issue of the Federal militia was not resolved until adoption of the second amendment.

This statement is historically misleading. The Constitution did not establish a federal militia. In fact, the Founders purposefully structured the military provisions of the Constitution to prevent the establishment of a federal militia. The only militias in existence at the time the Constitution was proposed and adopted were the militias of the several States.

A few paragraphs after making the above statement, Mr. Levin attempted to relate the Second Amendment to the State militia:

From the debates it seems clear that the intent of Congress in passing the second amendment was to prevent the Federal government from destroying the state militia.

Modern gun control organizations have adopted various interpretations of this premise. The Brady Campaign asserts that the purpose of the Second Amendment was "to prevent the federal government from disarming the State militias."

The U.S. Constitution established a permanent professional army, controlled by the federal government. With the memory of King George III's troops fresh in their minds, many of the "anti-federalists" feared a standing army as an instrument of oppression. State militias were viewed as a counterbalance to the federal army and the Second Amendment was written to prevent the federal government from disarming the state militias.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence claims the Amendment was adopted to "ensure the right of the states to maintain their own militias."

The Second Amendment was adopted to ensure the right of states to maintain their own militia to protect themselves against foreign and federal encroachment.

If the purpose of the Second Amendment was to "prevent the federal government from disarming the State militias" or to "ensure the right of the states to maintain their own militias," then the Constitution would first have to contain a provision that granted the federal government the power to disarm or destroy these militias. In other words, what constitutional power did the States, when they ratified the Constitution, grant to their federal government that necessitated the addition of the so-called "militia" Second Amendment four years later?

When the Constitution was submitted to the States for ratification, it granted Congress two limited powers concerning the use of the State militias. These powers are found at Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16:

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Neither of these clauses granted the federal government the power to disarm or destroy the State militias. Clause 15 granted the federal government the power to "borrow" the State militias to perform the three limited functions enumerated in that provision. Clause 16 distinguishes state and federal power when the State militias are called into the actual service of the United States. The Second Amendment did not amend either of these two clauses or grant Congress any new power concerning the State militias. Therefore, the Second Amendment could not resolve any controversy concerning the militias as expressed by Professor Levin, The Brady Campaign, or The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

Following the close of the Federal Convention a controversy did arise concerning the State militias. This controversy was unrelated to the existing right of the people to keep and bear arms. The Anti-Federalists, who opposed ratification of the proposed constitution, argued that unless Clause 16 was amended, the States would surrender the power of "organizing, arming and disciplining" their militias in the event Congress refused or neglected to perform those functions. They feared that if the federal government ever became tyrannical, it could use Clause 16 to destroy the State militias. As a result, the States would not have an organized military force to resist foreign invasions or encroachments on their sovereignty by the federal government.

The Federalists, who advocated adoption of the proposed constitution, argued that the apprehensions expressed by Anti-Federalists concerning the militia clauses were unfounded. They correctly pointed out that the powers enumerated in Clause 16 were not surrendered, but concurrent because the federal government had no power over the State militias unless and until they were in the actual service of the United States. When not performing the three limited functions enumerated in Clause 15, the federal government had absolutely no power over the State militias. The Federalists saw no need to amend Clause 16 because the States had exclusive authority over their militias when they were not being "borrowed" by the federal government. Thus, it would be constitutionally impossible for the federal government to disarm the State militias.

As a result of this debate, the Anti-Federalists in two States, Virginia and North Carolina, succeeded in getting their States to adopt a "collective right" militia amendment to amend Clause 16. Their proposed amendment would modify a clause in the body of the Constitution and was not part of any proposal for a bill of rights. The amendment was submitted to the first Congress in 1789 and read as follows:

That each State respectively shall have power to provide for organizing, arming and disciplining it's own Militia, whensoever Congress shall omit or neglect to provide for the same.

Modern day opponents of the individual right to keep and bear arms, knowingly or unknowingly, are extracting quotes from the debates surrounding this militia amendment, primarily from the State of Virginia, to substantiate their claim that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the federal government from destroying or disarming the State militias.

In addition to the above militia amendment, the Anti-Federalists in New York, Virginia, North Carolina and Rhode Island, proposed a separate individual right amendment that was to be part of a bill of rights. The following is from the Virginia proposal and read in part:

That there be a Declaration or Bill of Rights asserting and securing from encroachment the essential and unalienable Rights of the People in some manner such as the following;

First, That there are natural rights of which men, when they form a social compact cannot deprive or divest their posterity.

Seventeenth, That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state... (Bold added)

When read in proper context, through the qualifying statements that proceed it, the right to keep and bear arms language clearly pertained to the people individually, not the States collectively. If the purpose of the Second Amendment was to grant the States the "collective right" to arm their militias, then there would have been no need for New York, Virginia, North Carolina and Rhode Island, to adopt a separate individual right amendment. The "collective right" militia amendment proposed by Virginia and North Carolina, standing alone, would have accomplished the goal of preventing the federal government from disarming the State militias.

In the final analysis, these were two totally separate amendments that had nothing to do with each other. One amendment was intended to modify one of the two militia clauses in the body of the Constitution and specifically referred to the States. The other amendment, which was to be part of a bill of rights, would pertain exclusively to the people. Both of these amendments were submitted to Congress in 1789 when a bill of rights was under consideration. The amendment worded specifically to accomplish what gun control advocates claim was the purpose of the Second Amendment was rejected and not included in the final proposal for a bill of rights. However, the proposed individual right amendment, with slight modification, was the one adopted and eventually became the Second Amendment. These facts, for one reason or another, have eluded those groups and individuals that claim the purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the federal government from disarming or destroying the State militias.

As shown above, the facts surrounding the forgotten militia amendment negate any assertion that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to grant the several States the "collective right" to arm their militias. The failed "collective right" militia amendment was unrelated to the one that became the Second Amendment and any attempt by organizations like the Brady Campaign to link the two is factually and historically dishonest.
 
Mark Tyson


Well, not having written the article myself, I can't tell you exactly what his sources were. I suppose you could contact the author (via SierraTimes).

Two excellent books on the subject:

To Keep and Bear Arms: The Origins of an Anglo-American Right
by Joyce Lee Malcolm


That Every Man Be Armed: The Evolution of a Constitutional Right
by Stephen P. Halbrook

Both vital reads. :)
 
Good, if long, article.

I think that the whole argument in favor of the individual RKBA can be summarized as follows:

1) The Declaration of Independence correctly asserts that we all have certain inalienable rights, among them [but not exclusively so] the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That means that these rights can't be taken from us, only illegally usurped by a government. We CANNOT cede the rights of any of our existing or future descendants.

2) The Constitution was intended only to establish a government - to state its proper function, to establish its form, to create certain basic rules about how it would function, etc. Its authors did not purport to create any rights in the people, but to establish certain (limited) powers of government.

3) Those afraid of a powerful central government were instrumental in getting the Bill of Rights proposed and passed. This document DOES NOT CREATE any rights, it merely RECOGNIZES them and specifically PROTECTS them against the Federal government.

4) The 2nd Amendment only mentions the right to keep and bear arms...it says nothing about powers. Since only individual people can have rights, and only governments can have powers, it is self-evident that the 2nd protects a particular individual right (to keep and bear arms).

5) The 14th Amendment applies ALL of the BOR to the states and their subdivisions (counties, cities, etc.). Though there's been no 2nd Amendment case on this issue, other cases regarding other amendments have made this clear. Thus, whatever restrictions the 2nd places on the Fedgov also apply, through the mechanism of the 14th, to all states, etc. As a result, all state and local gun laws are in violation of the Constitution.

6) Were the Constitution as a whole, or even just the 2nd Amendment, to disappear tomorrow, the existence of our rights would be unaffected (though they would almost certainly be violated, but that's a different issue). Our RKBA existed prior to the existence of the Constitution, and it will survive the eventual disappearance of this country, should such an awful event ever occur. If you really want to make one of these anti-gun A-holes squirm on this issue, ask them if their right to speak freely or to worship would disappear if the 1st Amendment were repealed.
 
Standing Wolf

The only reason leftist extremists trouble themselves to tell lies about the Second
Amendment is that they know they can't get away with simply repealing it.

See part 6 of my post above - it is irrelevent if the 2nd exists or not, the RKBA still exists. But, yes, it does stick in their craw that they KNOW that there's no way that they could repeal the 2nd.

However, what REALLY bothers the few statist anti-gunners who've actually applied some thought to the matter is that they couldn't achieve their goal of a disarmed society, no matter what. While guns aren't immune to abuse and the passage of time, they aren't quite as subject to expiration dates as, say, a cup of yogurt. Guns last hundreds of years, and I would say that this applies in spades to stainless steel guns with fiberglass or composite stocks. Couple that with the existence of roughly 300 million guns in the hands of 80 million or so people (many of whom can consistently put lead on to a small target from several hundred yards away), and a generally rebellious history among our countrymen, and you have a recipe for incredible carnage among those who make a serious attempt to disarm the public. England's current gun laws, if passed here, would result in Civil War II. And if they call in the UN, lots of blue helmets will end up perforated (assuming that some or all of the armed forces don't resist, which is a distinct possibility - then you are talking about radioactive craters all over the world).

I've lost the quote, but I believe that well before the Civil War Lincoln said words to the effect that "all the armies of the world, armed with all of its weapons and supplied with all of the world's treasure, excepting our own, could not drink as much as a single cup of water from the Ohio River as long as the American people did not wish them to. The only enemy that can defeat us is ourselves." Though that's not an exact quote, 'nuff said. And THAT bothers the Sarah Brady's of the world.
 
Standing Wolf

I found the Lincoln quote at: http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln78.html

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume I, "Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum,of Springfield, Illinois (January 27,
1838), p. 109.)

Though Lincoln was assuredly not talking about the RKBA, everything he said in this quote applies to an attempt to disarm the American people. Such a thing can only be accomplished from within, by traitors to our freedom.
 
The anti-firearms genre states that the Second Amendment is not an individual right but a right of the states. Nowhere in the Constitution or Bill of Rights is the word “right†or “rights†used in any manner except to refer to human beings. Wherever the federal government or states are referred to, the word “power†or “powers†is used exclusively.

The powers of the states and federal government, and the limitations thereon, were codified in the main body of the Constitution. In fact, the word “right†appears only once in the body of the Constitution and that is in Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 8, which refers to “authors and inventors†-- humans all.

Conversely, the word “power†or “powers†appears TWENTY-THREE times and refers exclusively to powers of the Executive, Judicial, Congress, or the States.

Powers are either granted or assumed. Where powers are assumed, only a breeding ground for tyranny may exist. Freedom can only flourish where powers are granted by the consent of the governed. This is as it should be.

Under the anti-firearms genre’s premise, they must assume that the Tenth Amendment reads:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the STATES.â€

There can be no other reason that the founders would specifically segregate the words “states†and “peopleâ€, in the same document in which there exists a debate of their true intentions, unless they meant that the states ARE NOT the people.

The anti-firearms genre must also assume that, centrally positioned within a manifesto of individual human rights, the founders saw fit to place a guarantor clause of a “right†of the States which is specifically banned to the states in Article I, Sec 10, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution which reads:

â€No state shall, without the consent of Congress, ... keep Troops or Ships of War in time of Peace ...†“

Based on their premise, this forms what I have referred to many times on TFL and THR as a circular argument wherein the Second Amendment purportedly restricts the federal government from disarming the states when the states need the permission of that very Congress to be so equipped in the first place.

The First and Fourth Amendments are written in what is plainly “collective†language using words and phrases such as “religionâ€, “the pressâ€, “... right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government ...†Imagine, if you will, a religion of one, a singular press, an assembly of one, or a petition of one. The Fourth Amendment includes plural words and phrases such as “their persons, houses,â€, “...and the persons or things to be seized.†Clearly collectively written plurals which the courts have consistently, and without exception, ruled to be individual rights.

The anti-firearms genre must also ignore the Constitutions of the states which are unambiguous in their intention using such words and phrases as: “citizen†AL, CT, NM, (OK); “citizens†AR; “individual†AZ, (ND); “person†CO, (WV); “defense of themselves†FL, IN, KY, (NH), OR, PA, SD, VT, WY; “individual citizen†IL; “every person†MI; “their defense†KS, OH; “any person†MN; “each citizen†LA; “defense of self, family, home†NE, (WV); “every citizen†MD, ME, MS, NV, TX; “all persons†(NH); “defense of their person, family, property†(ND); “his home, person, or property†(OK); “body of the people†VA; “the individual citizen†WA. Idaho goes so far as to state that “No law shall impose licensor, registration, or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition.
( ) = States cited twice due to subsequent pertinent clause.

The courts have consistently ruled that enumerated rights in a state’s Constitution, that exceed those enumerated in the federal Constitution, hold precedent to those of the federal Constitution if not elsewhere prohibited. A good example of this would be Westside Sane/Freeze vs. Ernest W. Hahn, Inc. , 224 Cal App 3d 546, (1990) which clarifies and expands Robins vs. Pruneyard Shopping Center, 23 Cal. 3d 899; affirmed Pruneyard Shopping Center vs. Robins, 447 U.S. 74. This is the case wherein it was held that the right to political petition, and entry to common grounds on private property for that purpose, may not be infringed. It was only by virtue of California’s Constitutional wording that this right was upheld.

In their zeal to smite the Second Amendment; would the anti-firearms genre be also willing to sacrifice the First, Fourth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments to the “new definition†of the word “people� Are they willing to take license with this most important word to their own ends; and risk the loss of rights heretofore held sacrosant? Are they willing to take that chance that the courts will not hold the “collective people†as precedent in future First, Fourth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment rulings?

Perhaps so. They are, after all, zealots.
 
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