The hydrostatic shock theory?

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  1. 481

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    I wish there was something here sensible enough to respond to. Such jibberish is the dance of the desperate. You can parse definitions all that you want, the process remains what it is, like it or not.

    He did ask it in a straighforward manner devoid of any implication. He even stated that he was simply curious.

    That you perceive it as having implied "ulterior motives" and or as a "deception" is not something that he can be held accountable for in his question. That you do this suggests an emotional investment on your behalf- something that many exhibit when they anticipate the imminent demise of a belief that they are emotionally invested in.

    An admirable suggestion. However, the motivation underlying your suggestion becomes questionable when in that very suggestion you then accuse him of having an "ego-stake" in something that he has demonstrated no such intention. Subtle, but inflammatory accusations following a request to keep it "high road" make your intentions in making such a request seem very suspect.


    I think that the answer to this is evident if you take the time to read above what has been written.
     
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    In that case: do your comments indicate that you are stupid, lying, or merely ignorant? Just curious.

    (Not a real question: simply a counter-example to your assertion that a "Just curious" question carries no implication. If you feel my "Just curious" coda in no way negates the insult in the question preceding, now you'd understand how I feel about Odd Job's "Just curious.")
    Yes. And I would not normally ask such a question.

    But here, it was offered (again) as a counter-example: ego can always be at issue in a simple internet discussion; by contrast, it is hard to imagine how such a discussion can materially affect one's finances or career, as Odd Job implied.

    If asking someone if they have an ego-stake in an argument (which would simply be human) is to be considered an insult, then how much more insulting to imply they are arguing dishonestly out of concealed, material self-interest?
     
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    Precisely. Which exactly why the speculative construct remains where it is today. No one (except perhaps those disinclined towards the scientific model), no governmental entity, agency, military, or other organization is using it as a criteria for selecting their issued ammunition.

    It is not just me making the claim. Other authorities upon review of his "work" have decribed the confounding issues with that effort. I agree with their analyses after reading and understanding their reasoning.

    That you rely yet again upon the same assumption that his citation sources' silence constitutes their tacit approval of his misuse of their material tells me that you are unresponsive to any real open discourse.

    I'll say.

    Your reliance upon the repetition of fallacious assumptions bodes poorly for the outcome of your argument.
     
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    I know of a case where a Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol attempted to take a prisoner. They chose the last (enemy) in a column and shot him in the back with a silenced .22 pistol, hoping to disable him. He simply swatted at his back as if he had been stung by an insect. They shot him again, with the same result.

    Finally, as they were reloading, they dropped the magazine, he heard it, turned around, saw them, realized what was happening and dropped dead.
     
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