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The new generation loves guns.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by WonderNine, Dec 27, 2003.

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  1. WonderNine

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    Sorry, this is a drunken post, but I believe it to be true. I want to say "blah" to all the doom sayers that think that we are on a downhill slide regarding gun ownership. Do you know how many Counterstrike babies want to own a Desert Eagle in .50AE??? And all these violent movies nowadays that are making kids (I'm 24 so anyone younger than me is a kid) want to own Samarai swords and M16's?
     
  2. esheato

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    We should outlaw booze. For the 'kids'.

    :scrutiny:

    esheato...
     
  3. WonderNine

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    Oh darn. Well that would mean less gun enthusiests.....and that's bad...;)
     
  4. MicroBalrog

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    LOL, well, it was actually role-playing that made me a gun nut, but heck you're RIGHT WONDERNINE!
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    Press on to absolute victory!
     
  5. clubsoda22

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    i'm a white, suburban 18yo "kid" and i own a Taurus PT92, a Bersa Thunder .380, an HK USP .40 and a Winchester 1300 Defender 12ga. Video games and movies were not an influence in my gun selection. Note that if they were i'd probably own a Glock (because that's what all "real" gangsta's carry) and a Desert Eagle (because it's oh so photogenic)

    I love it when i hear fools talk about what guns they'd like and their saying the video game names (you know, something that's slightly off). Half the time i can pick out what game it came from. For instance, when Nintendo 64 was in it's prime and "Goldeneye" was the popular game you'd hear about people wanting an "AR33" or "Cougar Magnum" like they actually existed. :rolleyes:
     
  6. artherd

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    I confess, movies made me first want an AR-15, because of the cool pattern made by the A2 flash hiders, and the neat metallic sound of the bolts.
     
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    One problem, I have noticed a number of the 'new generation' love the video game guns.

    But are just the same fearful and un-educated hypocritical wussies when it comes to REAL firearms.

    In other words, twenty-somethings living in a fantasy world (this coming from another twenty-something.)
     
  8. Daedalus

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    The easy solution to this problem is very simple

    Take them to the firing range

    If you have a friend, relative, or anyone else who has a "fake firearms" enthusiams, just ask them if they would like to shoot a real firearm for a change. I have tacked up 3 conversions this way.
     
  9. dinosaur

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    You`re not going to hear or read too much about young people and firearms unless it`s a court case blaming video games or some other anti propaganda. The safe pleasures of firearms ownership Doesn`t sell newspapers or weight loss products.
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    I'm actually more inclined to want a video game because it is accurate in its rendition of firearms than to want a firearm I've seen in a game. I'm not a young un, though. I have seen lots of young uns who are great with video games, but as someone else stated, they have no clue or desire to handle real firearms.
     
  11. LynnMassGuy

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    "The easy solution to this problem is very simple

    Take them to the firing range "


    Yup!:)
     
  12. longeyes

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    Do the survey AFTER COLLEGE and see how many gun nuts are left. Then ask yourself who's going to making policy in ten, twenty years.
     
  13. longeyes

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    The gulf between fantasy violence, with its politically docile serfs, and the sober reponsibilities of actual gun ownership reflecting the values of the Second Amendment is HUGE. Don't be fooled. Video and computer games and gangsta kulcha do not a free Republic make.
     
  14. Daedalus

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    I agree, that is why it is our responsibility to instruct them.
     
  15. Jeff White

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    The entertainment industry has always had an effect on firearms sales. How many of us older members carried a brace of engraved SAA cap guns on our hips in our tender years? S&W was on the verge of discontinuing the Model 29 before Dirty Harry came out. Then they couldn't keep up with demand for them. Beretta sold many more 92Fs then they ever would have if Lethal Weapon had never been made. You shouldn't be surprised that people want to own firearms featured in popular video games. It's just another form of entertainment.

    We need to get these newly interested shooters to the range. I would be willing to bet that there are a lot of almost NIB Model 29s out there that were bought because everyone had to have one after the movie came out, that have not even had a box of ammo put through them. We need to open more ranges.....and get these budding shooters onto them.

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    These are all good points, and I'll bet you that Western movies/shows have also had a positive effect on the sales of lever action rifles, single action revolvers and the like.
     
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    I Don't buy it

    I don't buy it because most sane youngsters have a clear fantasy/reality line in their head. Watching a good friend killed over and over is good fun (South Park)-fantasy. Friends dying is bad-reality. Building an army and crushing your opponents with Nuclear fire is good fun (Command and Conquer)-fantasy. Nuclear Fire is bad-reality.

    Guns are fun and safe to shoot-fantasy. Guns can never be safe, Guns kill children-reality.

    What we do need to do is offer alternative ideas of what constitutes reality. We need to show them that concentrating power in the hands of a few is always bad.

    But we can't even convince their parents of the need to save for old age. I do not think we can show them that it can happen here.
     
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    hey....slightly off topic question, but it does relate to marketing of guns......


    There's a lot of restrictions (many varying from state to state, city to city) on the advertising of tobacco and alcohol. So what about restrictions on the advertising of guns?

    Aside from the gun magazines, I don't think I've ever seen any type of advertising.


    I guess if the ATF controls it (Heck, two out of three are already covered), then that's why there's no gun ads.




    "Turning 21? Tired of hanging out at the bars using your fake I.D. to get in? We here at (insert favorite gun maker here) have the solution! A shiny new (insert favorite cal. here) for YOU!":p
     
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    "The easy solution to this problem is very simple Take them to the firing range "


    I wish it were so easy. I've asked that question, and many say "Oh my god, why would you REALLY want to shoot one of these?" or the like.


    Kids today actually do have a very good and defined fantasy/reality line (overall it's good, we don't want kids clearing halways with grenades to get to 1st peroid.)

    The problem is, despite embracing the healthy outlet of videogame voilence, many of them in reality are still sheeple, and need to be educated verrry slooowly, to avoid turning on the automatic-responsability-gun-gag reflex.
     
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    Popular Mechanics runs Ruger ads.
     
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    coming from another 20-something...

    Anything that gets people to the range is a GOOD thing. I blame that fantasy/reality line on the fact that no one hunts or raises thier own food anymore, nor does anyone bury thier own dead. Children growing up in modern society have no grasp of life and death.
     
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    I'd suggest taking young ones who haven't been exposed to guns to a cowboy action shoot instead of a range to begin with.
     
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    I've seen television and heard radio ads for gun stores and ranges around here.
     
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    Having grown up playing Fallout 1 & 2 (in the games, you journey around the post-nuclear-war South-Western US, fighting off bandits, mutants and the like), and having been an Eagle Scout, I knew it was definitely good to be prepared, and to have it and not need it (instead of needing it and not having it). I bought an AR15 as my first gun, 3 years ago; I'm currently 22.

    Kharn
     
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    I love broad generalizations about whole generations. They are usually so accurate.
     
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