The One That Got Away, and a few questions for more experienced hunters.

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So, here's the story. I'm 18, live in VA, and am yet to kill a deer. With that being said, in seasons past, I only have managed to make it out into the field 5 or 6 times per season, due to my weird sleep schedule, and inability to be woken up by anything short of a Class 5 hurricane (alarms included). So, this season, I decided, "I'm making it a point to get out in the field as much as possible this year. THIS will be the year I get my first deer." So, I get up this morning, put some slugs in the 12 ga. and hit the field a little before 6:30. Now, I've never been one to deck myself out in camouflage, spray on all those little scent sprays, use deer calls, etc. Dad used to throw on jeans and a T-Shirt, and would bag 'em all the time. I guess I just follow his example. So, I grab my lawn chair (one of the little fold-up ones that fits in a bag, generally used for sporting events), throw on a jacket, head down towards the bottom field, and wait.

Now, the area I hunt is the path leading down to my bottom field, which has quite a bit of brush running through it. I perched myself up at the top, sat down, and began the waiting game. After about an hour and 15 minutes, a buck pops up out of NOWHERE. I didn't hear him coming, have no clue what direction he came from, but he was just there, like magic, in a little patch of brush. Instantly, I feel the buck fever coming on. It was unlike anything I've ever experienced in life. The biggest roller-coaster in the world couldn't compare to the huge rush of adrenaline that shot through me when I saw him. The thing is, he was in the brush, and all I could make out was his head. I had an idea where his body was, but didn't want to run the risk of getting a gut shot on him, so I decide to wait. Well, he notices me sitting up there, and looks at me. Then, he starts to walk in my direction, exposing his body. However, he was facing me, so none of his vitals were directly exposed. So I make the worst possible decision I could have made in that scenario. I stand up, he's still coming, then I start to strafe to my right, in hopes that I'll set myself up for a better shot. He turns around, and high-tails it into the woods.

So, here I am, back up at the house right almost exactly an hour after this has all went down. I could kick my own a** a thousand times over for not being more patient. I feel as though, had I just sat there and been still, an opportunity would have presented itself sooner, rather than later, and I'd currently be field-dressing the deer, rather than back up at the house writing about "the one that got away."

With all of this being said, for most of my life, Dad has worked the night shift, so he's generally too tired to go hunting by the time he gets home. So, most everything I'm having to learn about hunting is being self-taught. He's trained me well to respect guns and gun safety, but in terms of actual hunting, it's mostly me. So i just had a few questions for the more experienced hunters on here,

1) Which is better to hunt, the path leading to the field, or the field itself? The field has a creek running through it, which I would think would lead to better hunting, but I've only seen them on the path headed down.

2) Due to my run-in with the deer today, do you think I might have scared them from the area, or should they still be utilizing the same path in the days to come?

3) How does one deal with buck fever? Honestly, even had I gotten a shot, I'm not sure I could have hit it, because I instantly started shaking unlike ever before in my life, all the while my heart was pounding itself out of my chest.

4) Does anyone else have any stories they'd like to share about "the one that got away?"

This was kinda discouraging, because I feel as though my luck will allow this to be the only one I see all season, but at the same time, I'm more determined than ever to be out there every single morning until I can make up for this one. I appreciate anyone who takes the time to answer, and I apologize for the long text and numerous questions.
 
I feel as though, had I just sat there and been still, an opportunity would have presented itself sooner, rather than later, and I'd currently be field-dressing the deer, rather than back up at the house writing about "the one that got away."

1) Which is better to hunt, the path leading to the field, or the field itself? The field has a creek running through it, which I would think would lead to better hunting, but I've only seen them on the path headed down.

2) Due to my run-in with the deer today, do you think I might have scared them from the area, or should they still be utilizing the same path in the days to come?

3) How does one deal with buck fever? Honestly, even had I gotten a shot, I'm not sure I could have hit it, because I instantly started shaking unlike ever before in my life, all the while my heart was pounding itself out of my chest.

4) Does anyone else have any stories they'd like to share about "the one that got away?"

This was kinda discouraging, because I feel as though my luck will allow this to be the only one I see all season, but at the same time, I'm more determined than ever to be out there every single morning until I can make up for this one. I appreciate anyone who takes the time to answer, and I apologize for the long text and numerous questions.

First off, what part of VA are you hunting?

So, you're probably correct in that if you'd just waited you'd be dressing out a deer. However, if the deer was close enough that you were comfortable making a head-on shot, why not take it? You would have done enough damage to the vitals with that slug that there wouldn't have been much of a recovery, if any at all.

1. Don't set up right on the deer trail. Give them some space. It's hard to say where to set up without seeing what you're working with, but setting up 30 or so yards off the trail, right next to the field might be your best bet.

2. They'll be back. One run-in with a hunter isn't going to scare them off forever. Now, if you're constantly scaring deer out of there, you should probably find a new spot for a while and give the area some time to 'settle'.

3. Take as many deep breaths as you need to calm your nerves. Everyone has had buck fever, and if they tell you they've never had it happen to them, they're lying. Do whatever you need to do in order to calm yourself before the shot. Absolutely don't rush the shot.

4. I was hunting a ridge of the property that I hadn't been up in a few years. I hadn't shot anything in over two years and the wife was itching for some jerky. As I was making my way down the ridge, I stopped to sit for a minute. Well, directly across from me there were 6 does making their way down into the draw below me (maybe 100 yards max). I had a bad seat for taking a shot, so I shifted my body to get a better rest. The deer must have seen, and or heard, me and started moving away from me down the draw. Well, I decided the caboose was getting the bullet, so I lowered the crosshairs on her. At this point, I'm so nervous that she's going to get away that my heart was about beating out of my chest. I squeezed the trigger and watched her walk away. . .unscathed. I had completely missed her and had to watch her disappear into the brush. Didn't see a deer I could get a shot on the rest of the day, or the season.

Moral of the story, you're young and there are plenty of deer in VA. You'll get another chance. Keep your chin up. Next time though, don't stand up unless you absolutely have to. If the deer is coming towards you, get a good site picture and wait to see what happens. Like I said, if you're comfortable, and it's a safe shot, the head-on shot will do the job, especially with a 12 ga.
 
I'm at work at the moment so slurry for the brief reply but you could have done much worse. You didn't get gored and there isn't a wounded buck laying up to die days from now so don't sweat it.

As for buck fever. If I ever learn to "deal with it", that will be the day I quit hunting. I'm 21, took my first deer at 7 and have taken another 15 or 16 sense then and the shakes are as bad as ever. Biggest thing is to keep it up and keep getting out there with them. Some of the old timers will be along soon with better advice.
 
First off, what part of VA are you hunting?

I'm hunting Central VA. There are quite a few deer in the area. I know it's a safe bet to see groups of 10 or so out in the fields at night.

Ok, that's what I've been doing is setting up a little bit off the trail. I'd say probably right about 30 yards off to the side, so.. glad to see I'm doing well in that area.

I certainly appreciate the tips. It was definitely a bit discouraging, but you can bet money that I'll be right back out in that field tomorrow morning doing the exact same thing, and the day after, and the day after that, so on and so on. I'm wondering if that same buck might not be hanging around the area. While I was down hunting the actual field a couple days back, Dad said there was a buck in the back yard when he got home from work. I'm thinking it might have been the same one I saw today, and he just decided to head up towards the house instead of staying down towards the bottom where I saw him at today. Either way, I have a pretty good feeling about this season. I've already put in more days in the field than any years past, and rifle season just opened a few days ago. I figure, the worst that can happen is I've got to wait until next year to go back at it again.

As for me not taking the shot head-on, I was kinda in a toss-up about that. I figured that it would likely drop him where he stood had I taken the shot, but I wasn't 100% and didn't want to run the risk of wounding him. However, I guess it's just one of those situations where you learn from experience. Next time I have one coming towards me head-on, you'd better believe that I'll have some meat in the freezer by the time it's all said and done with.
 
I'm at work at the moment so slurry for the brief reply but you could have done much worse. You didn't get gored and there isn't a wounded buck laying up to die days from now so don't sweat it.

As for buck fever. If I ever learn to "deal with it", that will be the day I quit hunting. I'm 21, took my first deer at 7 and have taken another 15 or 16 sense then and the shakes are as bad as ever. Biggest thing is to keep it up and keep getting out there with them. Some of the old timers will be along soon with better advice.

Well, that's always good to hear, haha. Yeah, getting gored certainly wasn't on my list of things to do this morning. Don't think it'll be on that list tomorrow either. Same thing for wounding the deer. I like deer meat as much as the next guy, but there's enough beef in the freezer that I don't need to risk wounding a deer to eat.

Yeah, I've gotta say, I definitely enjoyed the buck fever. I mean, aside from it screwing with my aim and all, haha. Last deer I saw in the field was the season before last. Got buck fever that time as well. Granted, I don't remember it being anywhere near as intense as this time. Maybe because it was an actual buck, unlike the last time. Either way, I'm looking forward to going out tomorrow, and hopefully catchin' the fever again. Only time will tell.
 
Lol man you think it screwed with your aim with a shotgun, you ought to see what it does to a scoped handgun. :what:

As for being unsure on the shot, I can relate. A few years back my hunting buddy and I had just gotten our first center fire handguns. We were wearing them while squirrel hunting when a big doe wandered up and stood still broad side at 30 yards. My HK45 and his Ruger Blackhawk 357 magnum could have easily made the kill, and now being more experienced with handguns we could easily make the shot, but she walked because we weren't 100% sure we could make clean kill shots at the time.

Always the right choice in my book.

But the 12 Guage slug will make it deep enough to do the deed, and if you can put it where you want it to go that shot is very possible. Good luck on your next hunt man. Not many ethical hunters in our age group these days.
 
As far as mistakes, getting in motion was about the only real error.

The adrenalin rush of buck fever is common, but the deal is to figure out how to control it and reduce the effect. Me, I play mind games with myself. Some of it is, "Aw, well, it's just another damned deer; who cares?" I start focussing on what he looks like, how many points on his antlers, whatever. A real adrenalin killer for me is to think back to when I was in the Army on occupation duty in Korea and the sweet aroma of honey-buckets. :)

Anything which calms down your mind. A bully at school. A teacher you didn't like.

None of the above means that I've always been 100% successful. I've missed a few "gimme" shots from adrenalin rush. :D

One thing that helps is time out in the boonies on a year-around basis. Not hunting; just looking. The more you see critters of whatever sort, the adrenalin rush is less of a panic and is reduced to what might be called a normal amount of excitement--although the "excitement" should be easily controlled. It's why farm and ranch kids have an advantage...
 
As for buck fever. If I ever learn to "deal with it", that will be the day I quit hunting.

I agree that if I ever stop FEELING it I'll stop hunting. However you'd better learn to deal with it, or else you'll miss a lot of deer, or worse, wound them. Having the feeling is a good thing. Letting it freak you out to the point of not being able to hold the crosshairs on target is not.
 
I agree that setting up about 30+ yards off the trail (watch the wind) is the best option for a buck. Does and yearlings will go into the fields in the evening but bucks sometimes hang back until dark.

Shooting head on is a very bad idea. Set up to get a broadside or angling shot.

Buck fever ... well, the best way I've dealt with it is to concentrate on the shot only, not the deer. Take a deep breath and shoot while exhaling when the shot looks right.

The deer will show up again but maybe not in the same place.
 
I start focussing on what he looks like, how many points on his antlers, whatever.

This usually makes it worse for me. I do my best NOT to look at the antlers until I'm holding them in my hand. If a big buck walks out and I'm too focused on his headgear, that's when the fever really hits me hard.
 
Here's my story. Same as you my father didn't hunt with me. I was the youngest, and by the time I got old enough to hunt, my father had started a new career where he was always outside. Hunting no longer carried the same thrill.

So about 16 yrs old I'm sitting right ON the deer trail. I'm armed with a sawed off single shot 16 gauge. Not even a bead at the end of the barrel.
I here em coming. Dit dit da dit da dit. Holy smokes it's two bucks. They are loping along right at me. Cock and raise the gun into firing position. Aim at the lead buck. He's still coming. About 30' from me they realize that I'm in their path and bolt to the side. I'm still aiming. I could have shot them twice by now.
They stop. About 40' away. Broadside. The 8 point is directly between me and the six point. (In retrospect I'm sure I could have gotten them both with one shot.) I'm looking down the barrel, cocked and ready, thinking just exactly where I should shoot. I've never seen exactly where the heart and lungs are on a carcass. 10 seconds go by. Aim. Aim Aim.

The two bucks decide they have waited long enough for me and bolt. I follow them through the trees looking down the barrel of my gun. Shat! They are getting away. I lose sight but hear their hoofs clickittity clacking across the ice of the frozen 5 acre lake I'm near. I get up and run after them. The big one has broken through the ice on the other side and is struggling in the water. Holy shat! Wow! He frees himself and stands about 250 yds away looking at me. Stands motionless. Well ***? I say to myself. I think I'll just lob a slug in his direction. I do. He stands there. I lob another. Same reaction. I dig in my pockets and find more slugs. I lob another. This repeats itself for a half dozen times before the buck suddenly takes off.

Did I hit him, I think? No clue. F. I'm going to have to go around the lake and check. Going around the lake requires walking through 2' of water. It's cold mind you, and it's not just water. Reeds at @ eye level and there is fallen 2" to 4" brushy timber the whole way. An hour later, exhausted, I find their tracks in the snow and conclude I missed cleanly on every shot.

Today. 52 yrs old. I'm armed with a weapon that I can shoot across the lake accurately with. I'm very familiar with Whitetail anatomy. Same situation occurs tomorrow and the lead buck is shot at a distance of about 30 yds while he is still coming towards me. Where the neck meets the torso. There is usually a big white target while facing a deer head on. I may have to dig the slug from his intestines, but it would have passed between his heart and lungs before it got there.

Shoot for the "soccer ball" at any angle except facing directly away from you. Relax. It's just another target. Shotgun slugs penetrate. Take the first good shot to the boiler room that you know you can make. Don't wait for the deer to come up to you and give themselves up. They rarely do.
 
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1. I would hunt the path, but that's just me.

2. Deer are creatures of habit--they'll be back.

3. Look away from the deer for a few seconds, and either let your mind empty, or make a quick plan of action (depending on your personality)

4. 1st day of first year hunting in the mountains--had a bull elk come busting out of some brush at about 10 yards. About gave me a heart attack, but no shot. Only elk I've ever seen during the general season to this day. Your odds are infinitely better with whitetail. :)
 
I've read claims by wildlife biologists that you can figure a deer's attention span at around twenty minutes.

Generally, a spooked buck will go upwind and uphill, depending on terrain. Probably begin to settle down after initial fast travel and then go to walking until he feels safe. So, you make a big circle and try to observe his likely travel from crosswind. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I killed a pretty nice buck that way, almost a half-mile from where I first spooked him.
 
as far as "fever" goes, I tend to try to convince myself that a shot isn't going to happen anyway. "he probably won't give me a good shot, so why get excited?" Or, like was said earlier, look away at the ground or something while he's milling around. I just want to add to that, don't look with your head, look with your eyes. That way there's less motion and when you look back your head's already in the right position. I think in YOUR situation, had you waited, the adrenaline might have subsided. The longer you can see the deer as it does its thing, the more time your body has to react, and the excitement may start to pass to the point that you can aim and such.

I'm glad you're humble and smart enough to ask advice rather than thinking you know the answers. My first season I missed three before I finally got one, for two of the same reasons you've indicated (adrenaline and moving too much). You'll get there.
 
If you are hunting on the ground,lower is better.Don't stand up if you don't have to.You are not as threatening to them.I have gone to prone on occasion when they were approaching.Most of my shots have been taken from a sitting position.Try to look at deer year round and pick your shot location.When you see legal antlers,forget them and focus on the shoulder.
 
I've only been deer hunting 1 time, but I'll still pass along what I did to try and help with buck fever.

First, a little background. Prior to that deer hunt, I had only been hunting 2 other times, all in the past year, and for rabbit. My uncle used to deer hunt, but quit because it was a lot of work for him. So, I researched here on THR and on the internet, and set out this past 9 November. I get out there a little before 0600 and sit up against a tree I had picked out a while before. It had a nice downhill shooting lane. One of my fiance's family dogs decides that he'd like to join me (or protect me, I dunno). I try to run him off quietly (throw sticks for him to chase, flick him, even spray him with deer pee. Sidenote, that may have helped in the long run haha). Anyway, he leaves around 9ish. Around 10:30, I decide that I'll pack it in soon because I'm freezing still. So I get up and stand next to the tree and let the sun hit me and warm up a little. After standing there for a while, a buck is walking up from my 12 o'clock. My heart starts racing a million beats a minute. As I get him lined up in my sights I think of a few things: How does he not see me? (I was tree cancer in blaze orange), get my breathing under control, and getting the shotgun as steady as I could.

Long story short, I killed my first deer.
How to relate to the OP? I focused more on the technical aspects of shooting rather than the fact I was shooting at something.
 
When I get ready to shoot an animal, I firstly concentrate on the point where I want to hit. Then wait for the angle I feel comfortable with.

As far as dealing with the "fever", its something experience helps with.

My mind set is this:

Is this the animal I want, if so, concentrate on the impact point desired. Dont bother getting excited, because the animal isnt on the ground yet. Execute the shot as desired. When the animal hits the ground, then its time to get excited! Because you have done what you set out to do. Getting excited before you make the shot is counter productive.

Thats just my personal approach. Since I have nearly mastered this way of prepareing for the shot, my success ratio in all hunting avenues has skyrocketed.

If that helps any of you hunters, then great! Good luck and enjoy the sport, its the one thing we can do to "contribute" to the cycle Of life.
 
Is it wrong/un-normal if you feel nothing when you shoot a deer? I mean as calmly as stopping, pointing and shooting a paper target - and to feel nothing after. Other then "Food".
 
Vtgd7940

From reading your posts, I'd say you're very intelligent, well read, well versed and overall, downright articulate for an 18 year old.
 
My first time hunting I saw two does standing in the woods near me and like everyone else here has said the shakes can be real bad on the first one. Anyway I shot and cleanly missed the one that I was going to shoot. I was kicking my butt all over the place for that because it was an easy shot. Anyway, the next day I was at the same place and I swear I saw the same two does come prancing out of the woods into a clearing near me but this time they brought a nice little buck with them. I started shaking again, and took some deep breaths and calmed myself down. Then I looked through the scope and took the time to aim accordingly and squeezed a round off. It passed through his heart and made jello out of it and he piled up about 30 yards away. The does ended up running a half circle around me and stopped. I could have taken one of them if I had wanted to, but I decided that the little buck would be enough for me at that point in time.
 
I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time to reply. I managed to knock out fairly early last night, so I'm up and ready to go already. I figure I'll hit the woods here in about 2 hours. My plan is pretty much the same as yesterday. Set up in the same spot, sit, wait, and hope that one crosses my path. Only this time, I plan on sitting still and waiting for a shot to present itself. In the event that it doesn't happen, oh well, there's always tomorrow. The one thing I can say for certain, however, if I do manage to take one down today, y'all can bet there will be some pictures to help spice up this thread a little bit, haha.

Gbran, thank you for the kind words. I really don't care too much for my generation, as a lot of them make the rest of us look bad. The old adage of "A few bad apples spoil the bunch." With that being said, I do what I can to make the rest of us not look so bad, haha. I honestly think it has to do with upbringing. At the risk of making myself sound like I'm bragging, I'd like to think my parents did a pretty good job.

Well, wish me luck everyone, and good luck to anyone else who plans on being out in the woods with me in the next few hours!
 
Is it wrong/un-normal if you feel nothing when you shoot a deer? I mean as calmly as stopping, pointing and shooting a paper target - and to feel nothing after. Other then "Food".

No.

Good luck VTGD.
 
One thing I might add is....just because the deer is looking at you. That doesn't mean it has figured you out yet. You are not really busted until that whitetail goes bouncing off.

If you feel that you must move to get in the right shooting stance, then try and wait until the deer looks away...easier said than done...

In my opinion it's your movement and scent that will bust you most of the time. Be still and downwind as much as possible.
 
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