The onus must be on the pro gun Lobby

[Cortez]

FOR AUSSIESEEK

Every time you put pen to paper you condemn yourself.

I'm not the only one who has or had issues with you and the manner in which you run your Forum. You behave like a petty little dictator. It must be your way of puffing your ego.

Anyone who wants to know what you are like only has to visit Aussieseek and take a look for themselves. Such visitors should also note that the vast majority of gun traffic was moved to a separate forum, because it was getting too hot for The Administrator to handle.

It is worth noting trhat the only threads that get close scrutiny are those relating to gun issues.

Aussieseek stil permit 3 rabid anti-gun types to post long, rambling and abusive rants and then sits back and bans those pro gun people who react. It wouldn't surprise me if Aussieseek himself were TOM, straightshooter and cardigan.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Is it just me or do we seem to be drifting off the High Road of a discussion on Australian gun policy and degenerating into a rock-throwing contest between a couple of people.

A few folks have been struggling to have an issue-related debate on the subject, but it keeps descending into a personal feud.

Mods?

 

[Cortez]

I agree. I have referred this issue to Mr Roberts already. Aussieseek started this rubbish and I don't intend to sit here on this forum and be denigrated by this person without some sort of recourse.

He runs a very strange forum of his own. Let him stay there.

 

[Cortez]

For all US readers.

Here are some examples of what Aussieseek permits on his forum and which have a direct bearing on this thread. Attempts by Progun people to dispute this rubbish brings about censorships and bans. Both of these posts are from his favourite anti gun poster, TOM, an alleged american female anti-gun protagonist:

Rebecca Peters takes credit for the forced disarmament of Australian gun owners and the destruction of their 640,000 semi-auto rifles and shotguns. During the debate, Ms. Peters, who is heavily financed by globalist billionaire George Soros, defined her philosophy on our Second Amendment, saying, “American citizens should not be exempt from the rules that apply to the rest of the world.”

she said “I think Americans who… prove that they can hunt should have single-shot rifles suitable for hunting….”

Single-shot rifles? She belie all should be disarmed ,, repeating long guns - - semi-autos, pumps, bolt-actions, lever-actions and multi-barrel firearms!!!

beccy wants a world-wide ban on privately owned handguns, she told a British questioner (prohibited form owning any handguns) at the debate, “I am sad for you. I suppose you will miss your sport, Take up another sport.”

And on self defense by peaceable individuals, Ms. Peters said, “People need democracy to defend them. They do not need guns

Ms. Peters believes armed self-defense is unacceptable under any circumstance.

Women need to live in societies that respect their human rights. Women need to be protected by police forces, by judiciaries
not by guns

cool

AND

Now theyre importing their rent a crowd because theyre desparate
But it wont work

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ho hum.

Cardigan on behalf of SS welcome.

Those Buyback stats you posted may be worse now as Gun Owners have got a lot more violent and nasty and agressive in the last two or three years

Of course theyre the reason for any increase

It has been a case of lets use them before we lose them

Your signature is scary. Its probably the only time that Howard and a labor polly have agreed.

The Gun Posters here are relics of 1950 using all the tired old NRA arguments that have nothing to do with Australia.
They Spam the board. Hate the Moderator and post nothing
about guns. Its about NAZI Germany and all that. Just abuse

 

[Ryder]

"The chances of being shot dead by a stranger are incredibly remote. The really important thing is to stop people in families using firearms to resolve disputes. Buyback won't do it, nor was it designed to do it."

-- Dr Adam Graycar
Australian Institute of Criminology

That's how they rationalize the cause for the ban now? I thought Port Arther was their excuse?

Geeze, it is so dangerous here! Sure had me fooled, 50 years I've lived without personally knowing of a single family that used a gun to resolve a dispute. I hope Australia has a large supply of hardhats because THE SKY IS FALLING.

 

[Bruce in West Oz]

Aussieseek is, in the vernacular, a ****-stirrer.

He (or even she) is an addled, brain-dead, immature "non-thinker", who has spent one visit to many at the bong or crack pipe. The incoherent ramblings are surely those of a destroyed mind.

Whether he likes it or not, some sanity in gun laws in Australia is slowly being returned. We (gun owners) can wait a long time, because ultimately, we'll win.

 

[mordechaianiliewicz]

You want statistics? I'll give you a statistic.

60 million people (atleast) this century were killed by state funded terrorism. 60 million.

You want to know what was in common amongst the victims of every purge in China, Russia, Germany, Poland, Rwanda, Turkey, and Cambodia?

THE VICTIMS WERE NOT ALLOWED GUNS

Before you talk about anything else, talk about that.

 

[Stiletto Null]

Oh right.

Warsaw Ghetto.

 

[sterling180]

WELL this sounds very familiar indeed

To all shooters

she said “I think Americans who… prove that they can hunt should have single-shot rifles suitable for hunting….”

Single-shot rifles? She believed all should be disarmed ,, repeating long guns - - semi-autos, pumps, bolt-actions, lever-actions and multi-barrel firearms!!!



These comments made by Rebecca Peters are actually similar to what the UK GCN (Gun Control Network) chair-woman, Mrs Gillian Marshall-Andrews said about what rifles should be used for sporting and target-shooting purposes.The GCN has a little campaign where they are attempting to remove all multi-shot rifles and shotguns from civillian hands-which I found very amusing indeed.These proposals sounded so ludicrus and farcical, that It actually had me laughing in-stictches for a good two-hours.

WHAT THE HELL DO THESE GOOFBALLS KNOW-N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Personally I don't think that the Australians and Brits are going to surrender their multi-shot weapons, to these bumbling,retarded-idiots-so to them and one hopes that they will dissolve in to thin-air.

Now that a nice thought.

As Charlton Heston would say:"From my cold,dead,hands!!"

 

[G36-UK]

Nice idea, but given Gillian Marshall-Andrew's effectiveness at whipping the public into anti-gun fury, are you willing to bet on public support?

We both know what happened the last time someone tried to tell the truth in the same room as her (Mike Yardley).

BTW, did you know that the Mothers Against Guns group is sponsored by an organisation run by the Home Office?

 

[sterling180]

Actually I was assuming that their campaign might fail

G36-UK

YES unfortunately you might be right, mate in terms of what spins the GCN might put on multi-shot weapons-but Im counting on the Deer-stalkers,gamekeepers,farmers and pest-controllers in Britain, for their overwhealming support in terms of not surrendering their guns because they need them for their respective careers and livelyhoods.

If you remember back to August/September 2004, there was a document on "Controls on Firearms" where one of the questions was addressed to repeating shotgun owners,where the questioner asks something along these lines:"Do you [/B]think that these types of weapons are appropriate? and "what are the reasons for owning them", etc,etc.But fortuantely this consultion failed for the antis, but I don't think that It has gone away entirely-I think that It is lying dormant- in wait, to take advantage of another gun-massacre, involving legally-owned firearms.

It seems that target-shooting might be a thing of the past in the next 20 years or so, if we shooters don't act appropriately now.

 

[Duach Laidir]

Cortez,

You are right, I did do the late Benedict Arnold an injustice.

How about a comparisson with the late but not lamented Dr.Josef Gobells?

Duach.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Onuses are like opinions, everybody has one.

The onus must be on the anti-gun lobby to prove
that the benefits outweigh the costs, or that their
schemes woulld even work.

The primrose path to hades is paved with the
unintended consequences of good intentions.

The antis fail to realize that people opposed to their
good intentions may have good (or better) intentions:
they feel Us=good therefore Them=bad.

 

[middy]

Gee, I thought Americans were supposed to be the dim bulbs in the Anglosphere... I can't tell upon which side of the issue half of the posts in this thread stand, or even whether the poster is some kind of demented chat-bot or a real person.

Here are some posting tips:
Have a point and then attempt to make it.
Make it clear when you are quoting someone.
Make it clear when you are being sardonic. Subtle sarcasm often doesn't come across without the aid of facial expressions or vocal nuances.

Thank you.

in Texas.