The Second Amendment is about hunting...
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Mark Tyson
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I'm actually angrier at all the hunters/collectors/skeet shooters who think Kerry won't come for "their" guns than I am at Kerry himself. They're willing to sell out their fellow gun owners. I don't hunt but I speak up for hunter's rights every chance I get.
The really pathetic thing is it won't even work in the long run.
The really pathetic thing is it won't even work in the long run.
jfh
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I'm with Bill Hook, here...
Dean is yesterday's news--he's very likely out of even VICE-Presidential consideration.
Kerry's really no different from SCUBA Ted. ANY consideration of Democrat for your vote is to support a party that has a stated agenda of firearms control.
Dean is yesterday's news--he's very likely out of even VICE-Presidential consideration.
Kerry's really no different from SCUBA Ted. ANY consideration of Democrat for your vote is to support a party that has a stated agenda of firearms control.
grnzbra
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I've got a PETA application all filled out and ready as soon as they confiscate my ay-salt rifle. Then I'm gonna get together with my lawyer to set up the National Coalition to Ban Everything else. If the hunters/skeet shooters et al think Sara's bad, they ain't seen nuttin yet.
Maimaktes
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Mark Tyson, I'm with you; I am *so* sick and tired of hearing about *hunting*, as if that were the only thing that mattered, and of hearing *every* single Donkey Gang politician, from the local to the federal level, continually, robotically repeating the pre-recorded, stuck-record line about how "Oh, I'm all for huntin' and fishin' and sporting goods. But no one needs an AK-47 to go deer hunting." Furthermore, I long ago lost count of the people wearing NRA logo caps and belt buckles who, when approached andasked about it, said they had no problem with banning handguns and "assault weapons," *as long as their *hunting* rifles and shotguns were not affected*.
I personally expect a giant NRA and GOP sellout on the "assault weapon"/normal capacity magazine ban this year. They'll pass their precious lawsuit-immunity ban, and make a *show* of defeating the new, *expanded" semiauto ban by "compromising" and accepting the renewal of the 1994 AWB and letting it become permanent. Then they'll say, "Oh, look at what *could* have happened to you, if *we* hadn't saved you! So now you owe us big-time in votes and money!"
I've said it before but I'll say it again: I am a single-issue voter, and that issue is *not* abortion or gay marriage or flag burning or the Pledge of Allegience or the Ten Commandments or prayerin schools or Janet Jackson's boob flopping out or Iraq or even taxes.
That issue is the preservation/restoration of the right of the *people* (not just people in uniform or on the government payroll) to keep and bear *arms* (as in *weapons* actually useful for fighting -- not sporting goods). And the sunsetting of the AWB is the litmus test. If that ban is renewed or remains in effect one day past its expiration date, due to any action or inaction of Bush II's part, he can just forget about my vote in November. I've had it. I'm fed up. I want that ****ing ban *gone*. Everything else is just background noise to me now.
Maimaktes
I personally expect a giant NRA and GOP sellout on the "assault weapon"/normal capacity magazine ban this year. They'll pass their precious lawsuit-immunity ban, and make a *show* of defeating the new, *expanded" semiauto ban by "compromising" and accepting the renewal of the 1994 AWB and letting it become permanent. Then they'll say, "Oh, look at what *could* have happened to you, if *we* hadn't saved you! So now you owe us big-time in votes and money!"
I've said it before but I'll say it again: I am a single-issue voter, and that issue is *not* abortion or gay marriage or flag burning or the Pledge of Allegience or the Ten Commandments or prayerin schools or Janet Jackson's boob flopping out or Iraq or even taxes.
That issue is the preservation/restoration of the right of the *people* (not just people in uniform or on the government payroll) to keep and bear *arms* (as in *weapons* actually useful for fighting -- not sporting goods). And the sunsetting of the AWB is the litmus test. If that ban is renewed or remains in effect one day past its expiration date, due to any action or inaction of Bush II's part, he can just forget about my vote in November. I've had it. I'm fed up. I want that ****ing ban *gone*. Everything else is just background noise to me now.
Maimaktes
greyhound
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Another 1 issue voter here. Scared to death of Kerry and wouldn't vote for him if you paid me.
I hope that the AWB never reaches Bush's desk, I would like to vote for him out respect not fear of Kerry.
I am afraid I would go the hypocrite route and vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
I have been peppering every Republican organization with cries to stop this thing in the House. Looks good there, the Senate is the problem.
I hope that the AWB never reaches Bush's desk, I would like to vote for him out respect not fear of Kerry.
I am afraid I would go the hypocrite route and vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
I have been peppering every Republican organization with cries to stop this thing in the House. Looks good there, the Senate is the problem.
Waitone
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Dubya over the last few weeks has demonstrated he is not invincible. More to the point Rove is aware of a problem.
What problem you say? How 'bout record Democrat turnout in primary activities? How 'bout exit polls saying only one issue is important . . . . .electability. How 'bout a revolt among republican congressional vermin about drunken spending. How 'bout an immigration plan that p*ssed off more voters than illegal aliens that would be amnesty? How 'bout explaining the little discrepency between what we said Iraq had in terms in WMD and what we've found so far. How 'bout the recovery of the stock market yet job formation is waaay behind historical norms?
Sooner or later Dubya will tend to his base. And a part of that base is those who oppose renewal of AWB. I expect to see a little fashionable sucking up on the part of the president simply because he will have to tend to the base.
What problem you say? How 'bout record Democrat turnout in primary activities? How 'bout exit polls saying only one issue is important . . . . .electability. How 'bout a revolt among republican congressional vermin about drunken spending. How 'bout an immigration plan that p*ssed off more voters than illegal aliens that would be amnesty? How 'bout explaining the little discrepency between what we said Iraq had in terms in WMD and what we've found so far. How 'bout the recovery of the stock market yet job formation is waaay behind historical norms?
Sooner or later Dubya will tend to his base. And a part of that base is those who oppose renewal of AWB. I expect to see a little fashionable sucking up on the part of the president simply because he will have to tend to the base.
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Sorry dude. I didn't have access to your crystal ball when I posted this. I'll try to run everything by you before I post from now on.
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