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The THR Walker Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by scrat, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. StrawHat

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    kituwa,

    Are you sure it isn't marked "Marietta, Ohio"?
     
  2. kituwa

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    Strawhat, you are right, it is Ohio.
     
  3. knirirr

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    Does anyone know of any good Walker T-shirts on sale (with the vendor willing to post outside the US)? I've not seen anything here, but may well have missed it.
     
  4. sam steele

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    Hello Gents,

    Here's some pics of my Second Generation Walker, one of only 245 made with the COLTS PATENT stamp on the receiver.

    Being a stickler for detail, I de-blued the cylinder, and it's now "in the white" as are the originals. The oak case is courtesy of Bill Shumate. The accessories are Colt "Signature" mould and nipple wrench, and a nice used and aged Italian flask, along with an American-made brass inline capper and an original "ELEY BRO LONDON" cap tin that contains some old #12 caps!

    I solved the problem of nipple caps (the Second Generation has nipples the same size as the original Walker - size 12). I bought the Treso nipples in size 11, and they fit fine. I haven't fired up the monster, yet.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     

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  5. sam steele

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    ................another pic or two, as the earlier photo makes the grips look too golden.

    Thought that I'd add the pic of Sam Walker for effect, and the COLTS PATENT stamp as well.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     

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  6. sam steele

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    On a slightly different note, I saw post 3444 (Walker belly gun), and it reminded me of an auction that I attended a few years back, north of Toronto.

    It was an original Walker, minus the barrel, but intact otherwise. It was "Company C", I believe. I held it, and you could tell that it was long-ago modified as a somewhat large concealed weapon. Bidding started, and I made it to a $15,000 bid, before I chickened out (what, a real Walker in a small Canadian auction? It was quite a shock). The buyer was a young lady, I believe, who said that she was the go-between, and it was on its way to the U.S. I just heard recently that it's still in Canada, and that a gunsmith in Woodstock, Ontario bought it, and added a barrel and other cosmetic alterations! What a great pity. I guess that he was looking to make a big profit by selling it in the States after he fiddled with it. Well....it appears to be still up here. I don't know whether he's selling or not. The general consensus of our collectors group is that the guy committed great sacrilege, messing with it as he did.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     
  7. ChasMack

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    I would like to a member of the Walker club, now that I have my new Uberti Walker! Here is a pic of the Walker and my Colt Police Pocket. The Pocket Police is an actual Colt, not a Uberti. That Walker is a chunk of gun! Ole Gus from Lonesome Dove handled his right well for being as heavy as it is....not so sure about him being able to shoot a shot glass in the air :(
     

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  8. DoubleDeuce 1

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    I have a Colt Pocket Police also. Very tiny when placed next to the Walker.:cool:
     
  9. StrawHat

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    Anything is possible with a good script writer!
     
  10. Patocazador

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    I've read numerous books by Larry McMurtry and came to the conclusion long ago that he's full of it. He wrote a book about Billy the Kid that had NO factual elements in it. He placed Judge Roy Bean in the sequel to Lonesome Dove (Streets Of Laredo) in a situation that is totally BS as is his portrayal of John Wesley Harden, the outlaw.

    Authentic historical events were not in his universe.
     
  11. Viper98

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    see following.
     
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  12. Viper98

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    Greetings all,
    I would be honored to be able to join the Cub. Below is a picture of my newly acquired Uberti from DGW, and his little brothers (hopefully I've uploaded it right). The DGW site listed them, along with many other BP revolvers as out of stock, but I ordered anyway. The back order was filled within about two weeks.

    I got to load and fire it yesterday and am pleased with its accuracy. I do have a couple of comments/ questions for the group.

    1. I had a heck of a time getting the barrel assembly removed as it was very tight. I used the technique someone posted here of removing the loading lever, putting the barrel assembly Ina vice, and hammering the cylinder with a rod to successfully get it loose. That seemed a bit harsh treatment to me, but it worked, I had previously tried the loading lever to push it off and even tapping the lever with a hammer beyond my comfort level and nothing budged. After an evening of loosening it up it seems to be fine.

    2. I did my first loads with 30 grains of pyrodex. It seems like this may be too little powder for the loading lever to adequately compress the ball on the powder so I added some cornmeal over the powder to be sure. Will the loading lever reach down far enough to compress 30 grain and a round ball (which I think is the recommended load by DGW or Uberti) or is it better just to fill with more powder? From my crude measurements 30 grains looks pretty marginal.
     

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  13. Pulp

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    I've hit a few hand tossed targets with my Walker.

    Well, OK, I had the chambers loaded with shot, but hey, I hit the targets.:rolleyes:
     
  14. mykeal

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    30 grains/volume is marginal at best in the Walker. I get best accuracy at 45 grains in my Uberti, 50 in my ASM.
     
  15. Viper98

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    Yup, ran 40 & 45 grain loads through it tonight which seemed more reasonable.
     
  16. Dan D

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    May I join?
    Here's a pic of my Walker "Avenging Angel" along with a full-size version and a 1st model dragoon.
    Thanks,
    Dan
     

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  17. lionrobe77

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    Lionrobe,

    That is extremely cool what you had done to your Walker! What a great idea!:cool:
     
  19. elhombreconnonombre

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    Is there any difference between a Cabelas Walker
    and a Cimmaron Walker? Prices are essentially
    the same.
     
  20. kituwa

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    Uberti is the only company that makes a walker now so they should be the same gun, just diffrent markings.
     
  21. elhombreconnonombre

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    I've heard rumors that the shooters Cabelas gets are not the cream of the Uberti production run, but that the Ubertis that Cimmaron gets are better quality wise, or Cimmaron does a little minor tuning on the ones they get from Uberti before they sell them, which Cabelas does not.
     
  22. DoubleDeuce 1

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    You can probably call Cabela's and ask about their return policy. If you make a purchase through them and are not satified, I would guess you could return the merchandise. If you live near one of their stores, go in and handle a Walker. That might ease your mind some.:cool:
     
  23. Hoof Hearted

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    TEXAS! By God.....
    Cabela's return policy is SUPER!
    Just call them and tell them it is unsatisfactory (for whatever the reason) and ask them to issue a call tag, charge your card for another and they'll refund when returned. Easy Peasy, lemon squeezy........

    I like the font style of the roll markings, and the text, much better on the Cimarron firearms, just my opinion tho!

    HH
     
  24. elhombreconnonombre

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    Howdy Pards. I have decided to buy a Uberti Walker, either a Cimmaron from Texas Jacks or one from Cabelas. Maybe ya'll you can help me with this observation concerning Ormsby's cylinder roll engraving.

    My research indicates that the battle scene depicted on the Walker's cylinder as engraved by Ormsby never really happened. What's That You Say???

    While the cylinder was indeed engraved to commemorate Captain Jack Hays and his small company of Texas Ranger's early 1840s victory over a much larger force of Comanches in the Hill Country outside of Austin using Colt revolvers (i.e. Patersons that Hays obtained from the Texas navy), the Walker cylinder engraving actually depicts uniformed US Mounted Rifles (dragoons) in forage caps and striped cavalry breeches fighting in the engraving on he Walker. US dragoons not take part in this engagement and could not have used revolvers (they were not issued on a widespread basis to the military until after the Mexican war with the advent of the 1st dragoon model). Rangers were true frontiersman and citizen soldiers, who had no official military issue clothing or equipment. Only during the Mexican War did the Ranger affect a "uniform" of sort: a red flannel or buckskin shirt and sometimes buckskin pants. If a Ranger was lucky he was issued a Walker and bullet mold at Vera Cruz. The army QM reportedly only issued one revolver out of the set of two, since the set only included 1 bullet mold and there were no extra molds for these other revolvers. The revolvers remained in the QM's stores. Only a few high ranking US Army officers were able to snag a Walker or two at Vera Cruz.Rangers that left with the columns from Bexar did not have Walkers and brought their own weapons from home: Maybe a Colt Paterson from earlier in the decade if they served with the Rangers then, or more likely a brace of large caliber horse pistols in a pommel holster, a rifle, and/or a shortened sxs English scattergun, and of course a Bowie knife or brass D-handled Mexican machete. The Ranger companies served as scouts, "spies", and "rackensackers", harassing Santa Anna's regulars and gueriliers.

    Obviously, the engraving on the Walkers was a calculated marketing ploy by Colt to sell more revolvers to the Army in the post Mexican War period of US expansion, which he obviously did. He could say to the army: "Look what you can do in the future with the same hostile threat the Rangers met years ago with my old design."

    Your thoughts on my observation would be greatly appreciated.
     
  25. StrawHat

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    Since there were only about 1100 Walkers made, I doubt it was a marketing ploy. Like the stagecoach scene on the 31s, it was a version of the truth, or what was perceived as the truth.
     

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