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Curious to know how many of y'all shoot conicals out of your Walker. What's the largest conical/powder combination you used and what were the results?
 
Hi ClemBert,


I have not shot any Conicals ( have had none to shoot ).


But, I have shot some 230 Grain 'SAECO' Wadcutters, and, they are really nice in the WALKER, as well as in other .454-ish Cap & Ball Revolvers.

I finally got some Molds for casting Boolits of .454 - .456, weights from 180-odd to 260-odd Grains, and I am looking forward to trying those out.

Nuthin' wrong with Ball...just fun to have some variety now and then.
 
ClemBert said:
Curious to know how many of y'all shoot conicals out of your Walker. What's the largest conical/powder combination you used and what were the results?

The only data I have is from the Lyman Black Powder Handbook, 2nd Edition.

With Goex FFFg, .454 140 grain RB:

40 grains = 950 fps
45 grains = 983 fps

With Goex FFFg, .451 180 grain Conical:

40 gains = 898 fps

Anyone have any data beyond 45 grains they want to share?
 
Nothing official, but when my chrony was still alive I got a 5 shot average of just a hair under 1000fps with my 45 grain spout. That spout throws an actual weight of 42-43 grains depending on how hard my finger is pressed on the end. That was with round balls.
 
How do I join please?

Hello. I recently purchased a Colt Walker and registered for THR. Is there another procedure necessary to become a member of THR Walker Club? Thanks!
 
Here is my Walker ...

Okay ... here you go. This is my Uberti Colt Walker just purchased. Enjoying it thus far! :)
 

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SC Slowhand Here

Scrat

I'm not listed?
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Not a problem here is a picture of my Uberti 1847 Walker and a Uberti 1848 Dragoon 3rd Model. They make a cute couple.:)

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Just for the heck of it have a look at this Dragoon Original. it's from an article written by Dick Salzer "Debunking the Fluck Myth: Colt Legends Die Hard". Someone on the Assembly line must have had a few Walker parts laying around and here she is. SN 2850.
 
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16 Mustanger1 17 Phantom Captain 18 Pulp19 Snaggletooth 20 RugerBob
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I want in!

My Uberti Walker will be here Monday, according to UPS, can't wait!

This will be the first black powder weapon I've owned, so it's been great fun researching this stuff. This forum, and this thread in particular, have been tons of help, thanks!

On a side note, I got interested in the Walker a few years ago (the itch has been germinating for a while now) by reading the book 'Blood Meridian' by Cormac McCarthy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Meridian

For anyone here that hasn't read the book, I highly recommend it. It's one of the best books I've read, ever, and I think it should be considered one of the the Great American Novels.

It tells the story of a real, historical band of mercenary scalp hunters that operated on the Texas/Mexico border in 1849 - 1850, the John Joel Glanton Gang. I won't get into plot, but it's bloody and brutal and extremely historically accurate, down to the huge Walker revolvers they used to unleash their mayhem!

The Walkers are featured prominently, and it's really interesting to read about what some of these fine pistols continued to do after cessation of the Mexican War.

As my interest is threefold: historical, literary, and that of a firearms enthusiast, I really can't wait to get my hands on this Walker!

Pics will follow.
 
Official First Roll Call

With DUE RESPECT

Sources: Niles' National Register, Baltimore, MD, July 3, 1847, p.279
W. E. Connelly. Doniphan's Expedition, the Conquest of New Mexico and California (Topeka: W. E. Connelly, 1907), pp.527-581
Bernard DeVoto. The Year of Decision 1846 (Boston: Little, Brown and Co., 1943).


AFFAIR AT HUAMANTLA, MEXICO, OCTOBER 8, 1847
AND SUBSEQUENT ACTION, OCTOBER 1O & 11, 1847

Killed:
1. Capt. Samuel H. Walker, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
2. Cpl. Joseph E. Merriken. Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
3. Pvt. Hergenin or Hugenen, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
4. Pvt. Tarbox, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
5. Pvt. Richardson, Capt. Loyall’s Co., Georgia Mounted Volunteers.
6. Pvt. Rickey, Georgia Mounted Volunteers.
7. Pvt. Smith, 3d Artillery.
8. David, a negro slave, servant to Captain Walker.
9. Sgt. McLean, Louisiana Mounted Volunteers.
10. Pvt. Wall, Co. G, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
11. Pvt. Birch, Co. G, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
12. Pvt. Teedman, 4th Infantry.
13. Unknown Teamster; killed 10 October 1847.

Wounded:
1. *Second Lt. Chas. Tansey, Co. B, 4th Indiana Volunteers; died at Puebla.
2. Sgt. Russell, Co. B, 2d Dragoons.
3. *Cpl. Glanding; since dead.
4. Pvt. Geo. W. Walters, Co. K, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
5. Pvt. Josiah Bailey, Co. C, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
6. Musician Finch, Co. E, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
7. Pvt. Martin Dormar, Co. I, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
8. Pvt. Peter Campbell, Co. I, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
9. Pvt. Andrew Hattenstine, Co. D, 4th Ohio Volunteers, serving with Indiana Volunteers; leg cut off afterward.
10. Pvt. Meachem, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; severely.
11. Pvt. Raborg, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; lost a leg.
12. Pvt. Welch, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; slightly.
13. Pvt. Wayne, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; slightly.
14. Pvt. McGill, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; slightly.
15. Pvt. Scott, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; slightly.
16. Pvt. Myers, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles; slightly.
17. Pvt. Murray or Murrey, Capt. Lewis’ Co., Louisiana Mounted Volunteers.
18. Pvt. Fornley, Capt. Loyall’s Co., Georgia Mounted Volunteers; slightly.
19. Pvt. Milton, Capt. Loyall’s Co., Georgia Mounted Volunteers; slightly.
20. Pvt. Stetson, Louisiana Mounted Volunteers.
21. Wagon-master Poley; arm shot off, near Napaloucan, 10 October 1847,
22. Pvt. Eckert, Co. H, 4th Ohio Volunteers; wounded at El Piñal, 11 October 1847.

Missing:
1. Sgt. Goslin or Gosling, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
2. Pvt. Dement, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
3. Pvt. Isaac P. Darlington, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
4. Pvt. Collins, Co. C, U. S. Mounted Rifles.
5. Pvt. McCleary or McCleerey, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
6. Pvt. Richards, Co. C, U.S. Mounted Rifles.
7. Pvt. Brackholst, First Regiment of Pennsylvania Volunteers.
8. Pvt. Lienburg, Voltigeurs.
9. Pvt. Leland, Voltigeurs.
10. Pvt. Murphy, Co, I, 4th Indiana Volunteers.
 
HARDWAY Welcome to THR. i got to put that book on my list. Right now i am in the middle of reading two others though.
Reminiscences of a Ranger and On the Old West Coast: Being Further Reminiscences of a Ranger After that I was thinking about getting the book Six Gun Sound
 
OK, the walker showed up yesterday, I'll post pics as soon as I get a chance.

I've got a couple issues, however, and I was hoping you guys could help a newbie out.

Problem 1: The cylinder is too tight against the barrel assembly and won't rotate. I pulled the wedge and loosened it a bit, and the cylinder rotates fine. When I fully set the wedge, the cylinder won't rotate.

Problem 2: the inside edge of the forcing cone is a little dinged up. There's slight dings and roughness on the left and right of the rim of the forcing cone, at about 3 and 6 o'clock, and the finish is chipped off there.
Is this a problem? can I just dremmel it smooth, or will this be an accuracy problem?

The gun is a new Uberti Walker from Able's Ammo. Should I return it, or fix the problems myself?

I will post some pics of the gun and the forcing cone later as well.
 
The wedge typically is not to be installed all the way. Most folks have the wedge in just enough where the detent on the left side just latches on the frame. Look at the pics posted by most folks.

Without pics I can't come to any conclusion if you have a bad one or not.
 
I don't know if all Uberti's are like this or not, but on my '62 Police the wedge pops in and out with just my thumb, which is a good thing considering I have to pull the cylinder to cap it. I don't think that the original idea was to have to beat them in and out with a mallet like on some of the reproductions today.
 
Thanks guys, I've been looking through pics and I see that the wedge is not driven in very far on most people's Walkers.

So, if I push the wedge in as far as it will go by hand, that is enough?

Can't find the damn camera, going to have to wait until my wife gets home and use hers.

The dings on the inner rim of the forcing cone are pretty small, really, but enough to round the sharp edge of the rim a bit in a couple places.

Overall, I've got to say there are some flaws with this Uberti. There's some scratches in the metal in a couple places as well, most notably on the relieved area of the frame, where you cap the nipples.

I don't give a hoot about cosmetics on this Walker though, I just want it to shoot good, so I guess the forcing cone area is the only thing I'm really worried about.
 
The flaws on the inner edge of the forcing cone are a problem but not a large one. They can and should be smoothed out with your Dremel or a file.

The chamber diameter vs the barrel groove diameter will have a much bigger effect, and I'm willing to bet that's not a good number. The chamber diameters should be 0.001 to 0.003 larger than the groove diameter.
 
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