The ultimate "Appleseed Rifle" (warning opinion ahead)...

[SMLE]

I will likely take my Bushmaster A2. Might take my SR-48 too. I would like to put together one of those "LTRs" for fun too, but lack the $$$

 

[H088]

You kill your enemies, you take there gear. Never ending supply.

Also, the US military as a whole would never actively attack or disarm civilians, if it came down to it a good part of the military would break off and join us.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

This whole argument is merely mental masturbation if we are considering fighting a full scale invasion my an organized and properly equipped military force, esp our own, that is willing to bomb civilian targets.

While I think snipers, guerrilla warfare, and IEDs have proven to be plenty effective against even a modern military such as ours, I don't think we currently have the organization or funding to be as efficient as our enemies abroad, nor do I like our chances of winning against a determined adversary. To me, anything that requires me to engage a tank or fighter jet with my M1A means I am just holding out as long as possible. At that point, it's the Warsaw Ghetto, nothing else.

The good news is that very few American service men and women are going to break down American doors and shoot Americans in their own houses, and even fewer are going to drop bombs inside America's towns on civilian targets. At least, that is the current attitude as I perceived it when I was in.

The bad news is that does not account for the UN, very anxiously awaiting the results of our elections to determine the likely success or failure of their persistent attempts at disarming our civilian populace. I don't think it necessarily accounts for power-mongering zealots and thugs in various domestic para-military police organizations who have made it their calling to bust down American doors and shoot Americans, and I certainly don't trust the Chinese or North Koreans, though I feel the threat of invasion by either is pretty much non-existent.

 

[chieftain]

Chieftain

Did they let you keep your M14 and take it home as a souvie?

Don't I wish! They had no sense of humor about the selector either. I offered to put one of the selector locks on it too. No Go.

I now have a pre ban Springfield M1A/M14. Actually it shoots pretty good.

I have a story: I had recently picked up my M1A and was sighting it in at about 400yds. I was prone and talking to my buddy. (we were on private land of another buddies of ours) Anyway I am running my mouth, turn to load a full magazine. I do what I always did in Nam slam the mag on my helmet to set the rounds, and load.

I had forgotten that I didn't have a helmet on. Hurt like hell too!!!

You kill your enemies, you take there gear. Never ending supply.

Also, the US military as a whole would never actively attack or disarm civilians, if it came down to it a good part of the military would break off and join us.

Only if you win the battle. Just cause you got a few of the other guys, don't mean they are going to stand around and watch you strip their buddy. Usually get pretty sensitive about that.

AS to whether our well disciplined troops would or would not follow their orders? Well, I bet the majority would.

After all, how has the civilian world treated them?

I would not put my life or the life of my family on the religious beliefs of other people. You may be right, but I frankly and respectfully disagree with you. I believe most of the troops will follow their orders. Just like the Cops. Most will follow their orders. If you don't believe that, just look at New Orleans, or the Check points the DC police are running right now.

History and facts don't bear you out. US troops have fired on and/or acted on US civilians before, several times. Think WACO. They used IIRC either Reserve or National Guard Choppers in an armed assault. What do you think has changed?

Go figure.

Fred

 

[Tarvis]

I put together a 20" A2 for an appleseed shoot.